# Superyacht vs tornado: tornado wins

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 19, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907 "2024-08-19T15:11:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/21 "2024-08-19T22:16:39Z")

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I know!

I’m trying to talk myself into joining my bros on a charter fishing trip 4 hours. River inlet to Atlantic O Wht could go wrong.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/22 "2024-08-20T07:02:18Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Eeeek. You adventuresome folk kill me.

I gave birth to a baby in South Africa, cared for him until he was 13 months old in Mozambique, and raised him thereafter in Egypt and Indonesia. And yes, there were people who criticized me for that, since the health care in those places was not what would be readily available in some areas (not all) of the US - not to mention any other reasons they might or might not be willing to articulate, some of them racist and classist.

But he is now an adult, and doing just fine. I don’t regret at all the fact that he was raised in countries where - gasp! - millions of people live their lives, despite the horror of not being American.

This is not to say there is no such thing as reckless behavior as a parent. Of course there is. But that hardly means you should cocoon your kid to the point where you don’t live your own life, or expose your child to the richness of the world. Honestly, taking a baby on a yacht seems pretty tame compared to stuff I did with my kid. But I’m pretty sure I wasn’t a particularly bad parent.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/23 "2024-08-20T07:31:29Z")

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Beck, have you never heard of a Disney cruise? That’s a big boat full of kids.

I bet you’d love it!

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/24 "2024-08-20T13:55:02Z")

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My kid joined the Polar Bear Club at 5 because _he_ wanted to after watching me do it for a couple of years.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/25 "2024-08-20T13:58:26Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Beck, have you never heard of a Disney cruise? That’s a big boat full of kids.

To me, that sounds like hell.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/26 "2024-08-20T14:21:49Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> A waterspout isn’t likely to do much damage to, say, a concrete building.

I don’t know, it’d probably sink it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/27 "2024-08-20T15:27:38Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> A waterspout isn’t likely to do much damage to, say, a concrete building.

Not usually, no, but – as mentioned above – “waterspout” covers two distinct phenomena. The typical waterspout is the fair weather type but a tornado that happens to touch down from a supercell while over water is also a waterspout.

Cite:

> **[What is a waterspout?](https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/waterspout.html)**
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> Waterspouts fall into two categories: fair weather waterspouts and tornadic waterspouts. Tornadic waterspouts are tornadoes that form over water, or move from land to water. They have the same characteristics as a land tornado. They are associated...

Here’s one such beast from 2019:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zAqeGpmvzuQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Huge Waterspout Makes Landfall at Malaysian Seaside Resort") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAqeGpmvzuQ)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/28 "2024-08-20T15:36:54Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> The typical waterspout is the fair weather type

I’m not a meteorologist, but my impression is that the minor waterspout is analogous to a dust devil over land. Whereas the other kind is a true tornado, regardless of the surface it’s touched down on.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/29 "2024-08-20T15:39:04Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> Whereas the other kind is a true tornado, regardless of the surface it’s touched down on.

According to NOAA: if it’s over water, it’s a waterspout.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/30 "2024-08-20T15:39:48Z")

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Yes, nomenclature and all. But there are real differences in spite of the single name.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/31 "2024-08-20T15:40:25Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> But there are real differences in spite of the single name.

Which is my point. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/32 "2024-08-20T18:08:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Here’s one such beast from 2019:

Three hours later and I get the message “Video Unavailable”. I guess the massive number of people trying to watch it from here killed it.

@wolfpup don’t leave us in suspense!

And a couple notes:

> Yacht that sank off Sicily was carrying people celebrating tech magnate’s acquittal

> In an unrelated event, Lynch’s co-defendant in the Autonomy trial who was also cleared, Stephen Chamberlain, was killed Sunday when he was hit by a car while running in Cambridgeshire, England

> **[Yacht that sank off Sicily was carrying people celebrating tech magnate's...](https://apnews.com/article/italy-sicily-bayesian-lynch-hewlett-packard-9f4f3b6d7b48bb3c76dd98e35ab973c1)**
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> Police divers resumed searching for six people believed trapped in the hull of a superyacht that sank in a storm off Sicily

So apparently the gods weren’t happy with the acquital

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/33 "2024-08-20T18:13:36Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Three hours later and I get the message “Video Unavailable”.

The account holder doesn’t allow remote viewing, you need to watch at YouTube. Not really much to see there, anyway; just a water-based tornado that doesn’t really do anything until it comes ashore near the end. Then it starts flinging debris.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/34 "2024-08-20T18:15:38Z")

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I got the same message at Youtube (although perhaps it’s because of my ad-blocker)

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/35 "2024-08-20T18:16:08Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> (although perhaps it’s because of my ad-blocker)

Most likely, yeah. I’m on my work computer, which does not allow ad-blockers.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/36 "2024-08-20T18:48:09Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> @wolfpup don’t leave us in suspense!

Ah, I assume you’re referring to my nautical adventure stories. Sure, happy to oblige, but the endings are fairly boring and it was a lot more fun to leave it as a cliffhanger!

In the case of my sailboat getting becalmed in the middle of nowhere and a thick fog coming in and the engine failing to start, I must admit that on this first leg of the long trip, my friend and I had on board a long-time sailor and boat owner who had planned to get off and get picked up by his wife once we reached the marina on other side of Georgian Bay. He somehow managed, by sheer force of will, to get the engine started, and then congratulated himself as we motored directly into the harbour through the thick fog, he having navigated solely by dead reckoning and the boat’s compass. We laid over for an extra day to get the engine serviced and then went on alone, just the two of us.

On the matter of our bad choice of anchorage and being pushed by the wind towards all the other anchored boats on the other side of the bay, that actually got pretty exciting. It wasn’t a life-or-death situation but at several points I just sort of resigned myself to the fact that there was going to be significant boat damage, either by being pushed into rocks or being pushed into the other boats. I was lucky. The wind chose to push us toward the other boats instead of running us aground, and we – along with many extremely enthusiastic other boat owners – got out the boat hooks (basically long poles) to push our boat away from them.

Now having had the anchorage situation explained to us, we anchored in the safe part of the bay and all was well for the rest of the night, and for the rest of next morning because I believe we slept in for quite a while.

We had a further adventures but that’s for another day and another thread.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/37 "2024-08-20T18:56:55Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> It’s not like a Disney cruise.
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> Kids just seem outta place.  
> To me.
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> Luckily the Mother and child survived.
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> I would never had put myself or child in that place.  
> To each their own, I suppose.

Probably have more of a chance getting sick on a Disney cruise.  
As far as tornadoes, I suspect the kid was safer on the yacht than he would have been living in Oklahoma.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/38 "2024-08-20T19:01:21Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I wonder if it’s just coincidence that HP also purchased the once-great minicomputer company Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) after it had shed most of its value and pretty much all of its potential, not least because by then all the good engineers had left.

Well, not all good engineers had left 😉

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/39 "2024-08-20T19:13:07Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Which do you think you would have preferred? Becalmed and lost in fog, or about to collide with half a dozen other boats? 😆

> [@PastTense](#):
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> @wolfpup don’t leave us in suspense!

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Ah, I assume you’re referring to my nautical adventure stories.

**Q:** How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

**A:** I’ll tell you tomorrow!

> **Summary**
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> Look at @wolfpup’s timestamps; he literally told us the next day! _::rolls up newspaper::_

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/superyacht-vs-tornado-tornado-wins/1005907/40 "2024-08-20T19:13:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I wonder if it’s just coincidence that HP also purchased the once-great minicomputer company Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) after it had shed most of its value and pretty much all of its potential, not least because by then all the good engineers had left.

DEC was purchased by Compaq in 1998, and Compaq was bought by HP in 2002. I resigned between those two events; not sure if I’m counted among the good engineers that had left.

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