# Support groups.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 18, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605 "2016-04-18T23:46:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/1 "2016-04-18T23:46:18Z")

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Most people here consider CCitizen to be somewhat **strange** and few understand his struggles. The same applies to most forums I have been on since '98.

In '02 CCitizen found support groups. On one hand most people there understood CCitizen very well. On the other hand each member there is absorbed within their own problems, and has little time for others. And many people are not just **strange** like me, but are **superstrange**. Thus I mostly talk to people more successful then myself.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/2 "2016-04-18T23:49:51Z")

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Why does **CCitizen** refer to himself in the 3rd person?

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/3 "2016-04-18T23:51:22Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Why does **CCitizen** refer to himself in the 3rd person?

Because he is **strange** and he is experiencing crisis due to inability to find a job.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/4 "2016-04-18T23:52:33Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Because he is **strange** and he is experiencing crisis due to inability to find a job.

Oh, ok. That makes sense.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/5 "2016-04-19T01:24:30Z")

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Do you refer to yourself in the 3rd person on your resume, and in job interviews? That could be part of your problem (probably the tip of the iceberg).

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/6 "2016-04-19T04:51:41Z")

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What about that 20-hours-a-week job that you got last week? Are you still doing that? How has it worked out?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/7 "2016-04-19T05:34:08Z")

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What-the-fuck do you expect anyone to have to say to you here? This is the epitome of blog material.

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**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/8 "2016-04-19T13:27:40Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What about that 20-hours-a-week job that you got last week? Are you still doing that? How has it worked out?

You didn’t actually buy that, did you? What professor do you know, who’s kept a random post-doc around for 6 years by tossing him a few thousand dollars every year, has money just laying around to pay that post-doc for 20 hours a week at (minimum) $15/hour? AND is able to access that money- where they can confirm “yes, I can bring you aboard at X amount for 20 hours a week starting immediately”- in a few hours? At the end of a school year, no less?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/9 "2016-04-19T13:34:34Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Because he is **strange** and he is experiencing crisis due to inability to find a job.

If that twenty-hour-a-week job working from home was exhausting, you’re really going to be surprised to find that many people work forty hours each week and have to travel (sometimes an hour or more) to get to and from work.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/10 "2016-04-19T14:34:07Z")

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40? I dream of 40. Why, when I was a kid we worked 40 hours EVERY DAY, and we were happy to have it! We’d walk to work uphill, both ways, in the snow, and we slept in a hole in the street. And we were happy to have that too!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/11 "2016-04-19T14:38:36Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> 40? I dream of 40. Why, when I was a kid we worked 40 hours EVERY DAY, and we were happy to have it! We’d walk to work uphill, both ways, in the snow, and we slept in a hole in the street. And we were happy to have that too!

Luxury!

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**Author:** ![Me\_Billy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Me\_Billy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Me_Billy)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/12 "2016-04-19T14:47:11Z")

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Good for you to be going to support groups. Whoever pointed you that direction is giving you good advice.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/13 "2016-04-19T14:48:35Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Most people here consider CCitizen to be somewhat **strange** and few understand his struggles. The same applies to most forums I have been on since '98.
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> In '02 CCitizen found support groups. On one hand most people there understood CCitizen very well. On the other hand each member there is absorbed within their own problems, and has little time for others. And many people are not just **strange** like me, but are **superstrange**. Thus I mostly talk to people more successful then myself.

Have you considered tutoring students in math? I realize you’re not happy having been forced to become a PhD in Mathematics, but this would be an excellent way for you to create an employment opportunity and turn a negative into a positive by helping others and yourself. Win-win for CCitizen.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/14 "2016-04-19T15:00:11Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Because he is **strange** and he is experiencing crisis due to inability to find a job.

**kayaker** used to consider himself strange, but no more!

ETA: re support groups; the one I’m in meets during happy hour. Seriously, CCitizen.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/15 "2016-04-19T15:40:34Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Most people here consider CCitizen

Here’s where you go astray.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/16 "2016-04-19T15:50:06Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> In '02 CCitizen found support groups. On one hand most people there understood CCitizen very well. On the other hand each member there is absorbed within their own problems, and has little time for others. And many people are not just **strange** like me, but are **superstrange**. Thus I mostly talk to people more successful then myself.

Between this and your constant reminders that you’re a Russian-emigre/Jewish-intellectual special little flower, a big part of your problem, I think, is that you think you can’t relate to others and others can’t relate to you. Well, get over that. Because everyone is unique in some way and yet we manage to make connections with others nonetheless.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/17 "2016-04-19T19:42:21Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What about that 20-hours-a-week job that you got last week? Are you still doing that? How has it worked out?

I will get on average $10/hr.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/18 "2016-04-19T19:43:27Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> If that twenty-hour-a-week job working from home was exhausting, you’re really going to be surprised to find that many people work forty hours each week and have to travel (sometimes an hour or more) to get to and from work.

I know. But they get paid.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/19 "2016-04-19T19:45:13Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Have you considered tutoring students in math? I realize you’re not happy having been forced to become a PhD in Mathematics, but this would be an excellent way for you to create an employment opportunity and turn a negative into a positive by helping others and yourself. Win-win for CCitizen.

Not a good way to get regular income. But I have tutored since '97.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/support-groups/752605/20 "2016-04-19T19:50:03Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> **kayaker** used to consider himself strange, but no more!

What has changed?

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