# Supposedly Comic Characters Too Evil to Like **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 17, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155 "2005-01-17T04:11:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/81 "2005-01-19T05:28:37Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Eh? Gollum? “Sonny” the robot? Buzz Lightyear? Shrek? > > And Token gave him a well-deserved beating, once. 🆒 Gollum was passable at best. Buzz and Shrek didn’t share the screen with live actors. Who’s Sonny? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/82 "2005-01-19T05:37:06Z")
I, Robot movie. ---
**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/83 "2005-01-19T12:12:33Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > I, Robot movie. I think I’d put I, Robot in my column. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/84 "2005-01-19T15:09:40Z")
I have to agree with so many of these choices: the entire casts of Seinfeld, _Everyone Loves Raymond, Roseanne,_ and _Drew Carey_– hate them! Can add someone who has always driven me crazy on a show I loved-- Xander from _Buffy_. God, how I hated him! He was crappy to every woman on the show. He knew Willow loved him but dissed her to chase Buffy. However, he also heaped abuse on Buffy when he found out about Angel, and then when she understandably ran away after killing Angel, he turns on her. He also cheats on Cordelia with Willow, leaves Anya at the altar, guilt trips Buffy into chasing after the execrable Riley, and abuses her even more after the Spike affair, even though HE HIMSELF was also dating a demon. HATE HIM. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/85 "2005-01-19T16:25:05Z")
I strongly agree with the assessment of the **Seinfeld** crew. All evil idiots. In addition, Jason Alexander can ruin anything he gets near. However, I do want to add Jim in **According to Jim**. He’s an egotistical bastard who treats his wife like dirt and somehow gets away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/86 "2005-01-19T16:32:18Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I strongly agree with the assessment of the **Seinfeld** crew. All evil idiots. In addition, Jason Alexander can ruin anything he gets near. > > However, I do want to add Jim in **According to Jim**. He’s an egotistical bastard who treats his wife like dirt and somehow gets away with it. Which is unfortunate (to me) because I really like Jim Belushi. I watched the show for the first season, but even Courtney Thorne-Smith couldn’t keep me coming back. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/87 "2005-01-19T23:07:35Z")
I have to say that I both love and hate Homer Simpson at the same time. He’s a funny, original character with a personality more vivid than any sitcom. His situations are funny and his reactions are funny. However, he’s one of the most horrible men I’ve ever seen on TV (saying a lot considering he’s a cartoon). I remember one episode where they were on a long drive, and Grandpa Simpson was begging to use the bathroom for hours, they passed several rest stops, but Homer kept refusing him the latrine. Grandpa’s kidneys exploded, and Homer, without taking responsibility for it, finally agreed to donate one of his own. However, he skipped out on his agreement not once, not twice, but **three** times. This was his own father and it was _his_ fault his father was in this position, for God’s sake! That episode made me so angry. What would happen to a person who would do this in real life? He would be strung up by the thumbs, I guarantee. Adam ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/88 "2005-01-20T00:43:48Z")
> [@](#): > > I have to say that I both love and hate Homer Simpson at the same time. I think Homer is a great, sympathetic but hopelessly stupid and ultimately loveable character in the first five or so seasons of the show. After that, I hate him even more than Peter Griffin. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/89 "2005-01-20T01:08:23Z")
Not a comedy show, but the title character from _Judging Amy_. She seems shallow, vain, and insecure-if people don’t agree with her (religion, politics, her social life, etc), then she keeps bugging them, “Why don’t you approve???” Oh, and her daughter is a spoiled brat. And her sister-in-law, Gillian. I KNOW the character is supposed to be the lovable neurotic, but she’s seriously annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/90 "2005-01-20T02:17:23Z")
> [@sleeepy2](#): > > Gollum was passable at best. _Passable?_ Compared to _what?_ Olivier as Macbeth, performed at the New Globe? :dubious: I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this’n. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/91 "2005-01-20T02:39:37Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > _Passable?_ Compared to _what?_ Olivier as Macbeth, performed at the New Globe? :dubious: > > I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this’n. I’m with you. Gollum was freakin’ awsome! The CGI was easily the best and most realistic that I’ve ever seen. They even gave Gollum an Academy Award for (IIRC) best supporting actor. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/92 "2005-01-20T02:46:53Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Can add someone who has always driven me crazy on a show I loved-- Xander from _Buffy_. God, how I hated him! He was crappy to every woman on the show. He knew Willow loved him but dissed her to chase Buffy. However, he also heaped abuse on Buffy when he found out about Angel, and then when she understandably ran away after killing Angel, he turns on her. He also cheats on Cordelia with Willow, leaves Anya at the altar, guilt trips Buffy into chasing after the execrable Riley, and abuses her even more after the Spike affair, even though HE HIMSELF was also dating a demon. HATE HIM. AMEN. His sole virtue, on the surface, might appear to be loyalty, but he was always so sanctimonious and selfish and prickish in a way a “friend” never should be that I always looked forward to when he’d get his ass kicked (though Buff would always come to the rescue, sadly). ---
**Author:** ![KJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b2d939/32.png) [@KJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KJ)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/93 "2005-01-20T03:07:07Z")
Am I the only one that thinks _Seinfeld_ is funny? IMHO, the characters’ sheer selfishness is what makes it funny. I guess it’s because I can sometimes see myself in them. One thing I never could stand, though…you know those Sylvester & Tweety/Tom and Jerry cartoons? The ones with the plot that goes like: Tom/Sylvester is out to get Jerry/Tweety, but Jerry/Tweety comes up with some clever plan to foil Tom/Sylvester’s attempts, and in the process, they make a big mess in the house, and then the cat’s owner/Granny gets mad and punishes the cat because she thinks he’s the one that made the mess. This happens repeatedly throughout the episode. When I was a kid, I always hated those cartoons. I know the cat is supposed to be the bad guy, but jeez…it makes me uncomfortable for some reason. I just wanna smack that stupid old lady sometimes. I don’t find it funny at all. ---
**Author:** ![According\_to\_Pliny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@According\_to\_Pliny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/According_to_Pliny)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/94 "2005-01-20T03:22:58Z")
I never thought much anyone on All In The Family, or Maud or The Jeffersons. Loud or “sassy” just never equals clever. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/95 "2005-01-20T13:43:38Z")
> [@KJ](#): > > Am I the only one that thinks _Seinfeld_ is funny? IMHO, the characters’ sheer selfishness is what makes it funny. I guess it’s because I can sometimes see myself in them. > > \ Naw, there were clearly plenty of people who that it was funny. I’m not one of them, but there were plenty. Keep in mind this is a thread where people come to post about the characters they hate. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/96 "2005-01-20T15:26:08Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > I’m with you. Gollum was freakin’ awsome! The CGI was easily the best and most realistic that I’ve ever seen. They even gave Gollum an Academy Award for (IIRC) best supporting actor. Nope, animated characters can’t be nominated for actor awards. He did win Best Animated Character over Yoda and Dobby at the MTV Movie Awards though. ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/97 "2005-01-20T16:09:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Mike the Meathead from All in the Family was a character I respected far less than Archie. He was a freeloader (oh boo hoo hoo… you don’t have money and want to go to college… WORK! You won’t be the first student to have a job while getting an education!), he never missed an opportunity to insult the man who was supporting him, he obviously looked down on his very sweet mother-in-law (and to a lesser degree on his wife), he was prone to temper tantrums and ultimately left Gloria for one of his students. In some ways, bigoted Archie was actually the real “man” on the show. I’m glad I’m not the onlyperson who felt this way. Mike did have part-time jobs, usually, and there was talk about him paying Archie back someday, but still… Archie was doing them a _huge_ favor and deserved some gratitude and respect in his own home. I always (even back when the show was new) saw Mike as a lazy, self-righteous prick who thought he _knew_ how the world should be run. Who I really hate, though, is almost all of the sitcom-wives-of-inept-husbands. Debra Barone, Jill Taylor and so on. Shrill, castrating, bitchy _shrews_. Imagine the outcry if a TV husband talked about his wife the way these gals talk about their husbands! They all need to be locked in a room with Dr. Laura until they repent. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/98 "2005-01-20T17:12:39Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Nope, animated characters can’t be nominated for actor awards. He did win Best Animated Character over Yoda and Dobby at the MTV Movie Awards though. Ah, my bad. I remember laughing at his “acceptance speech.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/99 "2005-01-20T20:54:27Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Nope, animated characters can’t be nominated for actor awards. He did win Best Animated Character over Yoda and Dobby at the MTV Movie Awards though. IIRC, Andy Serkis was nominated for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. He didn’t win, though. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155/100 "2005-01-20T23:40:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > IIRC, Andy Serkis was nominated for an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. [No he](http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Academy_Awards_USA/2004) [wasn’t](http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Academy_Awards_USA/2003) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supposedly-comic-characters-too-evil-to-like/285155.md?page=6)