# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\ **Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/404 "2022-05-04T17:24:29Z")
If only that butterfly hadn’t flapped its wings. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/405 "2022-05-04T17:25:04Z")
> [@Crane](#): > > Abortion is no greater than the we/dry issue in some red states. I mean, come on. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/406 "2022-05-04T17:27:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I am acquainted with probably a half-dozen people in Lake (the most liberal/Blue Indiana county) and Porter counties who are very much opposed to “race mixing” and want it outlawed with steep penalties for all parties involved. A few cranks you happen to know isn’t the GOP. Yes, I know some people are lunatics. I’d say the GOP has one HUNDRED ideas more likely to be their focus and quite plausible. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/407 "2022-05-04T17:28:36Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I mean, come on. Have you lived in a dry county in Alabama or Kansas? “anybody who’d vote wet is lower than a egg suckin hound” Rev Willard Stallcup, Decatur AL ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/408 "2022-05-04T17:32:33Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A few cranks you happen to know isn’t the GOP. Yes, I know some people are lunatics. > > I’d say the GOP has one HUNDRED ideas more likely to be their focus and quite plausible. The GOP will eventually do anything that even the smallest number of its cranks want. The rest of them will end up going along with it, even if they don’t really support it … and then eventually many of them will end up supporting it, after it becomes party platform. That has been the history of the GOP for the past 50-60 years. Your suggestion that "well, this one issue is _too_ extreme for that to happen\* isn’t very convincing. They will always end up doing that thing that everyone says they would never do. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/409 "2022-05-04T17:33:11Z")
I can’t think of less insightful or accurate posts than the few you’ve made trying to conflate prohibition nonsense from 50 year ago with abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/410 "2022-05-04T17:41:11Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I can’t think of less insightful or accurate posts than the few you’ve made trying to conflate prohibition nonsense from 50 year ago with abortion That’s understandable, but I do find parallels between the two moral prohibitions. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/411 "2022-05-04T17:43:53Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > That has been the history of the GOP for the past 50-60 years. Your suggestion that "well, this one issue is _too_ extreme for that to happen\* isn’t very convincing. > > They will always end up doing that thing that everyone says they would never do. I keep recalling this great scene from “Billy Jack,” except … Billy had what might be considered a liberal bent, and the ‘other guy’ in the scene is like a fair number of the Most Detestable Republicans of today – about a minute – **erring to the conservative – NSFW - violence, language** : [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZEsOmQ8sfvU/maxresdefault.jpg "Billy Jack scene - Really - Foot to the face KICK scene (HD) 1971") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEsOmQ8sfvU) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/412 "2022-05-04T17:58:01Z")
Abortion for the rich. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/413 "2022-05-04T18:34:24Z")
With everything the Republican party has become recently I don’t know how you can come to that conclusion. They are literally opposed to free and fair elections. They’re a fascist (or proto-fascist at best) party. And fascists need an “other” as the enemy. So while it may not the be next thing on the chopping block (which is likely gay marriage), make no mistake they will come for those they see as inferior from mingling with those that are superior. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/414 "2022-05-04T18:36:25Z")
I half expect them to move on to legalizing rape. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/415 "2022-05-04T18:41:49Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > With everything the Republican party has become recently I don’t know how you can come to that conclusion. They are literally opposed to free and fair elections. Well, because there’s no evidence they’re after interracial marriage. Yes, I know cranks exist. They REALLY enjoy the pretense they aren’t racist. They are, on the other hand, quite clearly after gay marriage, gay sex in general, the separation of church and state, public education (watch; **total elimination of public schools will be GOP orthodoxy before 2030** ) libraries, PBS, voting rights, open and fair elections, electing Senators at all (just you wait and see), immigration, NATO, free trade, and free speech, so they have a busy schedule. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/416 "2022-05-04T18:42:23Z")
Ok. I see your point. I misunderstood you. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/417 "2022-05-04T18:45:57Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Which is why the GOP spends so much effort making it harder for some Americans to vote. Democrats win elections by getting more votes, Republicans win elections by preventing blacks from voting. That’s totally unfair!!! 😡 They also win elections by preventing other minorities from voting! 😛 > [@Cervaise](#): > > And students, and city dwellers, and … Yep. … > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’ll confess that this turn of events does have me a little tweaked at that segment of young progressives who are convinced that both sides are the same,… That lie is pushed very strongly by Russian bots. The GOP loves it. Keeps the youth vote home. > [@Wheelz](#): > > The Dems have become so hopelessly inept at campaigning that they’ll likely fail to use this to their advantage. Yeah, they only won the House, the Senate and the Oval Office. This meme is totally wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/418 "2022-05-04T18:53:17Z")
Moderating: Please, please, please, take the discussion regarding the 2016 election to another thread. We have many to choose from. It is not germane to the topic of discussion here, and you all know this. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/419 "2022-05-04T19:31:48Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > typically charge a regular bill This is certainly true. Just as with a public restaurant, you get an itemized list of everything that was ordered and its price, which is also listed on the menu. And the member signs the slip, much like a CC receipt. My point is that there’s no actual monetary transaction when the items are served and consumed; payment is deferred until the member gets their monthly statement. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/420 "2022-05-04T19:43:16Z")
Although it leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I’ll probably be raked over the coals for saying this, I think it is unfair to say that Braun would support outlawing interracial marriage. The most he said is that according to his view consistent understanding of states rights would allow for a state to outlaw interracial marriage. This is similar to a freedom of speech advocate acknowledging that his understanding of the first amendment would allow people promote white supremacist propaganda. Such an observation doesn’t make him a pro white supremacist. Further unlike the free speech argument, where allowing such language will virtually guarantee that someone somewhere would promote such the chances of an anti-interacial marriage law passing is vanishingly small in this day and age. Interacial marriage has a [94% approval rating](https://news.gallup.com/poll/354638/approval-interracial-marriage-new-high.aspx) so even taking into account our political segregation, it is highly unlikely that there is a state anywhere close to a majority thinks that interracial marriage is bad, much less wants it outlawed. So for Braun probably viewed the question as entirely theoretical, similar to one arguing that the ability of Biden to require vaccine passports would also allow him to post armed guards in front of the houses of the unvacinated to prevent them from leaving the house. Yes, he probably has that power but there is no way that he would actually propose such a mandate. That said, the idea that interracial marriage is not protected by the constitution is willfully ignorant, and his support for this belief marks Braun as being in all likelihood a vile bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/421 "2022-05-04T19:44:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > won … the Senate I consider this part debatable, considering that we have a 50-50 split, and one or two DINOs on the left side of the aisle. But hey, at least we got the leadership and the committee chairmanships, so I suppose that’s something. If this whole situation were turned around with the Republicans holding the White House, Congress, and barely the Senate by a 50-50 split, I wouldn’t put it past them to immediately end the filibuster and enact a national ban on abottion. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/422 "2022-05-04T19:47:09Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Although it leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I’ll probably be raked over the coals for saying this, I think it is unfair to say that Braun would support outlawing interracial marriage. But he would support getting the votes of those who think he _would_ support it. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/423 "2022-05-04T20:07:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But he would support getting the votes of those who think he _would_ support it. And I think this is a big part of the problem with the GOP. There is no limit to where they will whore for votes. I’ve no doubt plenty of them couldn’t give a rat about abortion, interracial marriage, or a host of other things. But there’s a significant portion of old cranky people who vote, and they especially vote in the primaries. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=22)