# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\ **Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 48
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/945 "2022-06-24T18:42:21Z")
17 posts were split to a new topic: [Mr Smashy’s Trollerama from the Roe vs. Wade thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mr-smashys-trollerama-from-the-roe-vs-wade-thread/966784) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/946 "2022-06-24T17:00:53Z")
If I ran the DNC I would put advertising in heavy rotation from now until November, saying “This is what happens when you vote Republican”. No mention of any candidate on either side, just: - Rollback of constitution rights by radical activist judges (pictures of Kavanaugh lying to the Senate) - No action on climate change (hurricanes and forest fires) - No action on common-sense gun laws (mass shooting aftermath) - Sedition and insurrection (mob attacking the Capitol) Vote Democratic. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/947 "2022-06-24T17:01:14Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Thats always been the fundamental problem with _Roe_. There is nothing magical about 24 weeks which makes it constitutionally less worthy of protection than 23 weeks and 6 days. That is essentially Roberts’s position. However, he argues that the Supreme Court should overrule precedent in the narrowest possible way by overruling that part of Roe v Wade without completely saying there is no constitutional right to abortion whatsoever…at least to decide this particular case. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/948 "2022-06-24T17:01:50Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > {…} Vote Democratic. ‘But they aren’t doing enough about _insert pet issue here_!’ ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/949 "2022-06-24T17:05:43Z")
**Modnote** : This is fairly inappropriate, please refrain from sexual comments in non-sexual threads. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/950 "2022-06-24T17:07:50Z")
nm got people confused ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/952 "2022-06-24T17:10:36Z")
Wrong post, I think… ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/953 "2022-06-24T17:10:37Z")
There is obviously a balance here. As the dissenters point out, what ends up looking particularly bad is when stare decisis is abandoned just because the makeup of the Court has changed and not because of some larger, broader, and more fundamental shift in our society, in the facts, or in constitutional law. It is clear today that Roe v Wade is overturned because of a bunch of random events such as… - RBG passing away a couple months earlier than when it would have been under a Democratic administration. - Mitch McConnell betting on being able to deny a Democratic President a nomination after Scalia’s death. - Comey announcing the need to re-open the Hillary Clinton investigation just before the election (and the 2nd Republican President in a generation hence eeking out a victory in the electoral college while losing the popular vote). ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/954 "2022-06-24T17:11:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Thats always been the fundamental problem with _Roe_. There is nothing magical about 24 weeks which makes it constitutionally less worthy of protection than 23 weeks and 6 days. There’s nothing magical about the age of 18 that makes one an adult either. Sometimes an arbitrary cut-off date has to be chosen. Is your contention with the time that was chosen, or the fact that a time was chosen at all? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/955 "2022-06-24T17:14:50Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > “substantive due process” (whatever exactly that means) Substantive Due Process is a constitutional law principle that says the 5th and 14th Amendments extend the principle of due process of law to place certain rights which are grounded in historical traditions of the US beyond government interference. These rights include(d) right to privacy, right to marriage, right to control the education of one’s children (which if Thomas struck down substantive due process some states could private schooling). There is a chance the court could use equal protection instead of substantive due process in these cases, but that’s generally a slight bit more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/957 "2022-06-24T17:15:11Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > We have been told over and over again that women will not stand for this. Elections are coming. We will see. Actually, polls show there is very little difference between women and men WRT attitudes about abortion. It’s not really a women’s issue in that sense. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/958 "2022-06-24T17:19:13Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I really really am not okay living by laws decided by people who lied during their confirmation hearings. I’m with you. I have _ZERO_ respect for the **Assholes** on the bench. We really need a Pit thread about this, but I’m too lazy to start one. ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e19adc/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff_II)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/959 "2022-06-24T17:25:56Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > With a lot of leaning on the history of abortion in America - basically “abortion has always been illegal and the Court had no authority to make it a right”. I believe that’s incorrect, and the argument is not that abortion has always been illegal. I think the argument is that abortion has never been regarded as a “fundamental right”, and since it’s not explicit in the Constitution, that’s the bar it would have to meet. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/960 "2022-06-24T17:26:23Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Justice Thomas doesn’t think Loving v. Virginia should be revisited. Justice Thomas doesn’t see _Loving v Virginia_ as a case about the right to marriage. He doesn’t recognize a federal right to marriage. In his dissent from _Obergefell v Hodges_ he characterized _Loving_ as being about the right not to be arrested (he defines “liberty” as the opposite of being detained) for cohabitating. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![MethidManTMA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MethidManTMA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MethidManTMA)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/961 "2022-06-24T17:26:39Z")
For all those celebrating the end of Roe v Wade, look at the broader picture. 3 of the Justices that voted to end it **lied** about it during their confirmation hearing. They literally committed perjury since if they didn’t they wouldn’t have gotten the job. And what they lied about, was a belief in precedence. They just showed that they don’t care about “settled cases”, their ideology overrides everything. So if you happen to share 100% of the same ideology as a rapist or handmaiden you’re good right? No. There’s what Roe was. It’s not a case that says “you can’t have abortions”, it was settled on the grounds of “privacy”. Allowing abortions was a consequences of saying “you have a right to privacy”. Ending Roe means **you have no right to privacy.** We have a rogue court that doesn’t care about what laws there are or what rights you have. It’ll force it’s own very specific, very rapey and zealot beliefs on you whether you want it or not. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/962 "2022-06-24T17:26:42Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/966784/3): > > the Dems shouldn’t have nominated a crook, I guess. {…} Very nice. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/966 "2022-06-24T17:29:57Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/966784/5): > > I haven’t been to these boards in probably over a decade, This is clearly false ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/967 "2022-06-24T17:34:16Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > How curious that Justice Thomas doesn’t think Loving v. Virginia should be revisited. 🤨 I’ve long been tempted to write a parody of a Clarence Thomas decision overturning Loving v. Virginia but it wouldn’t pass moderation on this board, not even in the Pit, it would largely consist of Thomas going into graphic detail about how horrible and disgusting his marriage is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/968 "2022-06-24T17:35:06Z")
You should send a report to the mods about your account being stolen from 2014 through 2019 ASAP! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/970 "2022-06-24T17:39:10Z")
> [@MethidManTMA](#): > > For all those celebrating the end of Roe v Wade, look at the broader picture. 3 of the Justices that voted to end it **lied** about it during their confirmation hearing. They literally committed perjury Cite? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=47) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=49)