# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\ **Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1121 "2022-06-25T00:54:10Z")
I thought I would never see it in the United States. We now have no right to privacy. How many more rights will be disappeared in the next 15 years? (I put 15 because I suppose at least two of the current conservatives might “be called home” by the end of that time.) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1122 "2022-06-25T01:00:42Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Is it? I think they will come for IUDs. There is a persistent belief among pro-life people that IUDs lead to “an abortion every month” amd there’s also a perception that they are a little slutty. Here’s one way to judge it. What is the ratio of posts on conservative forums saying the progressives are planning to grab their guns vs. posts on progressive forums saying that gun control needs to takes away guns from current owners? Not 1, but close to it. And what is the ratio of posts on progressive forums saying the conservatives are planning to outlaw IUD’s, vs. posts on conservative forums saying that IUD’s should be outlawed? Also near 1. Two years from now DeSantis is going to be saying that “the left” claimed IUD’s were going to be outlawed, and all we did was put on a 15 week abortion limit. I know the limit will be a lot earlier in some states, but the point that it wasn’t as extreme as progressives on the internet said it would be will be true. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1123 "2022-06-25T01:04:10Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Two years from now DeSantis is going to be saying that “the left” claimed IUD’s were going to be outlawed, and all we did was put on a 15 week abortion limit. I know the limit will be a lot earlier in some states, but the point that it wasn’t as extreme as progressives on the internet said it would be will be true. To save the republic, we must all post better. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1124 "2022-06-25T01:10:15Z")
> [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > To save the republic, we must all post better. That was a weakness of my post. If Democratic politicians stay away from panicky statements about the end of birth control, internet posts won’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1125 "2022-06-25T01:20:32Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > And there is no concurrence by Thomas that says the Supreme Court has a duty to confiscate diaphragms. Well, there wasn’t one yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1126 "2022-06-25T01:46:37Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > But they won’t, because even GOP primary voters are against that. For god knows how long, we have been told to calm down, that certain actions are so extreme that Republicans wouldn’t dare try to enact them. And then, they do. The Republicans believe that they pick the voters, not the other way around. There is no action that should be considered too extreme that the Republicans won’t try it somewhere; well, except maybe for privatizing social security (old people really want their checks every month, with cost of living adjustments to boot). ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1127 "2022-06-25T01:49:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > “This is what happens when you vote Republican”. > > - Rollback of constitution rights by radical activist judges (pictures of Kavanaugh lying to the Senate) > - No action on climate change (hurricanes and forest fires) > - No action on common-sense gun laws (mass shooting aftermath) > - Sedition and insurrection (mob attacking the Capitol) To which, sufficient voters to carry the Electoral College and majorities in both the House and Senate would respond: [![](https://gdb.voanews.com/39CBB8CE-17CF-477F-992E-0956133744C9_w1080_h608_s.jpg) ](https://gdb.voanews.com/39CBB8CE-17CF-477F-992E-0956133744C9_w1080_h608_s.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1128 "2022-06-25T02:02:46Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Two years from now DeSantis is going to be saying that “the left” claimed IUD’s were going to be outlawed, and all we did was put on a 15 week abortion limit. I know the limit will be a lot earlier in some states, but the point that it wasn’t as extreme as progressives on the internet said it would be will be true. > **[Opinion | Calm down. Roe v. Wade isn’t going anywhere.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/calm-down-roe-v-wade-isnt-going-anywhere/2018/07/03/fd470196-7f05-11e8-bb6b-c1cb691f1402_story.html)** > > A more conservative Supreme Court would still lag behind the culture. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1129 "2022-06-25T02:09:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > [https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-privately-called-roe-v-172306069.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-privately-called-roe-v-172306069.html) > > > The man most responsible for shaping a U.S. Supreme Court that delivered the conservative movement a long-sought victory has spent weeks saying he did not think it will be good for his party. > > > > Publicly, after a draft of the likely decision leaked in May, former President Donald Trump was remarkably tight-lipped for weeks about the possible decision, which the court ultimately handed down Friday, ending federal abortion protections. But privately, Trump has told people repeatedly that he believes it will be “bad for Republicans.” Read: “Suburban women might not want to vote for me in 2024.” That’s all it is. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1130 "2022-06-25T02:10:13Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > There is no action that should be considered too extreme that the Republicans won’t try it somewhere… Anyone who doubts this should read the Texas Republican party platform. > **[6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf](https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf)** > [@Texas Republican platform proposals are radical](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-republican-platform-proposals-are-radical/966503/1): > > On the table: > > - Referendum to secede from the United States > - Repeal of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the most effective civil rights law ever enacted > - Declaration that Joe Biden was not legitimately elected > - Declaration of homosexuality as “abnormal lifestyle choice” > - Equal protection rights for the “preborn” > - Teaching of Texan superiority in schools > - Ban on teaching sexual choice or sexual identity > [@Texas Republican platform proposals are radical](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-republican-platform-proposals-are-radical/966503/15): > > #19 of the “Principles”: > > > Support repeal of the 16th 126 Amendment (Federal Income Tax ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1131 "2022-06-25T02:57:46Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > People hear “right to privacy” and it makes no sense to them. It’s the “right to make choices about your private life”, which honestly, I think would be better described as “personal liberty”. In Spanish back home it is referred to as _derecho a la intimidad_, “right to intimacy”, the liberty of aspects of your life being none of the public’s business and **it** is **not** especially about sexual conduct, it extends to things that are recognizable as privacy e.g. the comings and goings of your children, health conditions, etc. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > My guess is that companies like JP Morgan Chase think that such policies make them attractive to prospective employees. Countdown to Gov. DeSantis retaliating against any business JPMChase has in Florida… > [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Kevin McCarthy has said My dearest wish in case of a flip of the House, is that then the freakazoids will just for the lulz torpedo Kevin McCarthy’s aspiration to be Speaker, so that all the debasement will have been for nothing. The man wants to be Speaker so bad that even Madison Cawthorn must be saying “have some dignity, dude!” > [@Velocity](#): > > Meanwhile, anti-abortion women would keep boffing their husbands or boyfriends, with no reason to participate in the sex strike. Yeah, I mean, look, guys, cut it out with the disbelief that millions of women (…Blacks, Latinos, young people, poor people, educated people) could possibly be on the R side or be OK with this specific turn of events. They exist, are many, and are fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1132 "2022-06-25T03:06:57Z")
Not sure that’s an argument you want to make, chiefly since slavery became illegal due to the XIII amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1133 "2022-06-25T03:36:17Z")
Factual question here: How does this effect health insurance? Can health insurance companies choose not to cover abortions? Will employers be able to choose to only offer plans that don’t cover abortion regardless of the state? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1134 "2022-06-25T04:06:15Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > IMHO **there’s only one thing** that can be done to overturn this decision. Make sure that both a Democrat is POTUS and that the senate stays under Democratic control for the next 20 years. By that time Thomas and Alito will likely have died from natural causes. …any plan that has as one of its steps “wait 20 years until two people have died, then _maybe_ we _might_ have a chance of _maybe_ doing something” is a plan doomed to fail. For starters: it doesn’t address any of the things that are going to happen right _now_. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1135 "2022-06-25T04:14:45Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Read: “Suburban women might not want to vote for me in 2024.” That’s all it is. Uep. Men of his class will never have issues arranging discreet abortions for their own mistresses, wives, and daughters. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1136 "2022-06-25T04:19:52Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > [The Man Most Responsible for Ending Roe Worries That It Could Hurt His Party](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-privately-called-roe-v-172306069.html) > > > > > The man most responsible for shaping a U.S. Supreme Court that delivered the conservative movement a long-sought victory has spent weeks saying he did not think it will be good for his party. > > > > > > Publicly, after a draft of the likely decision leaked in May, former President Donald Trump was remarkably tight-lipped for weeks about the possible decision, which the court ultimately handed down Friday, ending federal abortion protections. But privately, Trump has told people repeatedly that he believes it will be “bad for Republicans.” > > Read: “Suburban women might not want to vote for me in 2024.” That’s all it is. [He’s not hiding from this decision at all. He’s owning it:](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3536264-trump-takes-victory-lap-after-supreme-courts-roe-v-wade-ruling/) > "Today’s decision, which is the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, were only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court,” Trump said in a statement issued through his Save America PAC, referring to Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1137 "2022-06-25T05:13:17Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Uep. Men of his class will never have issues arranging discreet abortions for their own mistresses, wives, and daughters. Yeah, before Roe, when abortion was illegal, my mother’s obstetrician offered to abort her fourth pregnancy. She was so shocked she got a new doctor. But abortion for the wives and mistresses of wealthy and powerful men are going to be available. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1138 "2022-06-25T05:28:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > "Today’s decision, which is the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, were only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court,” Trump said in a statement issued through his Save America PAC, referring to Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch. In other words; “ME ME ME ME ME ME ME EVERYBODY THINK ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TODAY”. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1139 "2022-06-25T05:32:42Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > OK, if this doesn’t lead to a massive Democratic win in the midterms, I give up. I really thought the whole coup thing would be enough, but… Call me a pessimist but given the high inflation and high gas prices the past few months and are bound to continue through the election, I can see too many Americans selling their birthright for a mess of pottage – and they won’t even get the pottage. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1140 "2022-06-25T05:42:33Z")
I’m in southern Alberta, Canada, and the local news–which usually covers such things as a drug bust on the north side of town, the construction on Third Avenue, and whatever festival is upcoming–had the SCOTUS abortion decision front and centre this evening. Why, when it’s hardly local; at least not in the sense of the construction on Third Avenue? Because Alberta is directly north of Montana, and the Montanan governor tweeted that in the wake of _Roe_ being overturned, he was considering an abortion ban for the state. Since abortion is perfectly legal in Canada, the newscaster was telling us that we might see a number of Montanan (and Idahoan) women seeking abortions in Alberta. Maybe they cannot get one in neighboring states, but Canada? Hmm … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=57)