# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\
**Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\
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My wife and I were chatting last evening. She has dutifully resigned herself to being known as “ofDavid” going forward.

> **[Handmaids Are Stripped Of Identities On 'The Handmaid's Tale'](https://www.romper.com/p/why-do-handmaids-names-start-with-of-on-the-handmaids-tale-their-identities-were-erased-54309)**
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> Early on in Hulu's The Handmaid's Tale, the protagonist Offred revealed that she once went by a different name, but it was now forbidden for her to use or share it. As new handmaids were introduced, a clear pattern started to emerge with their…

Which … y’know … is nice.

/s

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1322 "2022-07-01T14:04:46Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Not to mention it will probably be impossible for them to be insured which I think guarantees they cannot operate legally.

Not to mention that it will be illegal to provide abortions which I think guarantees they cannot operate legally.

~Max

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> What will a pregnant woman and her medical team be permitted to do if at some point in her pregnancy, there is no longer a fetal heartbeat?

You would have to look at the state law. How the law defines abortion could be different from how the doctor defines abortion - especially if the law uses the word homicide instead of abortion (you can’t kill something that’s already dead). The medical team should have lawyers to look at this sort of thing.

~Max

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1324 "2022-07-01T19:17:52Z")

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I imagine that it’s true. I’ve heard rumblings about it in conservative circles. The problem that I keep running into is, well, you know all those companies and city governments that promise to pay for a woman’s travel out of state to procure an abortion? Doesn’t that go on a subpoena-able record somewhere?

> **[Biden predicts states will try to arrest women who travel for abortions](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/biden-not-enough-votes-change-filibuster-abortion-rights-2022-07-01/)**
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> President Joe Biden predicted on Friday that some U.S. states will try to arrest women for crossing state lines to get abortions after the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to the procedures nationwide.

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This presumably isn’t an original idea, but what if, instead of having an abortion, a woman decides to remove her child (sic) from life support? There was the whole Schiavo mess so the QOP would undoubtedly try to pass laws restricting even more parental rights, but at first glance it seems like a dodge an aggressive attorney and/or doctor get make fly.

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1326 "2022-07-01T19:43:19Z")

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Remember the whole distinction about heroic measures versus standard care? That would probably come into play again.

~Max

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Wouldn’t arresting women who travel for abortions run afoul of the 14th Amendment?

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Like they would care.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Wouldn’t arresting women who travel for abortions run afoul of the 14th Amendment?

Arresting a woman who traveled to murder her baby? An easy call for an up and coming prosecutor in a QOP controlled state. Now, I guess there is a question of jurisdiction (the “murder” happening in a different state), but I’m sure there are ways around that.

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That’s easy enough. Nine month pretrial detention with no bail for conspiracy for murder.

~Max

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1331 "2022-07-01T21:20:19Z")

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> **[Nation’s Fetuses Puzzled Why Supreme Court Wants Them Exposed to Air Pollution](https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/nations-fetuses-puzzled-why-supreme-court-wants-them-exposed-to-air-pollution)**
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> “It just doesn’t seem very pro-life to us,” they said.

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> That’s easy enough. Nine month pretrial detention with no bail for conspiracy for murder.

We should really think about setting up detention centers for _all_ pregnant women. You know, just to be safe.

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You say it jokingly now…

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> We should really think about setting up detention centers for _all_ pregnant women.

> **[Breeding Farm (2013) ⭐ 2.9 | Horror](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2317412/)**
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> 1h 25m

> After a night of partying, four friends are kidnapped by a mysterious man. The friends wake up in a basement, and realize they are part of something horrifying. A human breeding farm. They are to be milked, bred, and much, much worse.

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I was thinking more The Handmaid’s Tale.

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Someone has already made the building in Minecraft!

[![](https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2021/10/27/1635302839-6178bdb7dbd6c.jpg) ](https://tnimage.s3.hicloud.net.tw/photos/2021/10/27/1635302839-6178bdb7dbd6c.jpg)

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[![](https://i.redd.it/1qvffj39j2991.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/1qvffj39j2991.jpg)

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And it begins:

> **[As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/)**
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> After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it's left some in Ohio to travel outside the state for an abortion. Among them is a 10-year-old girl.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1339 "2022-07-02T00:29:41Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> What’s the benefit of publishing in advance like this?

It wasn’t published officially. It was leaking by a person or persons currently unknown. Their motivation also is not known. However, the most likely explanation is they hoped to shame a Justice or 2 into changing their mind.

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> All this has happened before and all this will happen again.

Like with abstinence-only sex education, it didn’t work then, it won’t work now, but they’ll never change their minds on its efficacy.

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