# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\ **Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1561 "2022-08-05T20:57:19Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > If the Republicans thought the economy would be the major issue, they should have realized that limiting access to abortion will make a lot of people poorer (mostly but not all of them women) I think that’s a feature not a bug. The modern GOP is primarily about hatred and hurting “the other”. Those are their main policies. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1562 "2022-08-05T21:46:10Z")
It certainly seems that way. In a functioning democracy (I know, pull the other one, it’s got bells on) pissing off too many of your voters is supposed to have consequences. I can hope that some chickens are coming home to roost. One can dream. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1563 "2022-08-05T22:34:20Z")
My dream too. Maybe the leopards have eaten too many faces. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1564 "2022-08-05T23:00:16Z")
Is the Kansas vote an example of conspiracy theory nutjobs being in a position to reject the vote (state legislature, I guess?) and choosing not to do so? Because my deepest worry isn’t that Democrats don’t vote, but rather that they’ll be tossed out. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1565 "2022-08-09T10:49:28Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > **In a functioning democracy (I know, pull the other one, it’s got bells on)** pissing off too many of your voters is supposed to have consequences. I can hope that some chickens are coming home to roost. Exactly. It _could_ be short-sighted. It could also be, to paraphrase Game of Thrones, that they know what the democratic consequences of this lightning push are, and do not intend to suffer the consequences. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1566 "2022-08-09T12:53:06Z")
Oh I know they don’t _intend_ to suffer the consequences. And they probably won’t damn it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1567 "2022-08-25T21:30:36Z")
A Florida Judge Who Denied A Teen Girl An Abortion Because Of Her Grades Was Voted Out Of Office > **[A Florida Judge Who Denied A Teen Girl An Abortion Because Of Her Grades Was...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-judge-denied-teen-girl-171135661.html)** > > Voters in Florida ousted two anti-abortion elected officials in separate races on Tuesday. > Smith had denied a 17-year-old seeking an abortion without parental consent in January this year on the basis that her grades were low and that she lacked “intelligence or credibility,” and was therefore not mature enough to get an abortion. An appeals court later [overturned](https://www.2dca.org/content/download/823307/opinion/220051_DC13_01182022_130002_i.pdf) his ruling. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1568 "2022-08-26T05:27:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Smith had denied a 17-year-old seeking an abortion without parental consent in January this year on the basis that her grades were low…. Let me get this straight. If a girl has **bad** grades, and therefore **isn’t** likely to earn enough money to care for a baby, she **can’t** have an abortion. But if a girl has **good** grades, and therefore **is** likely to earn enough money to care for a baby, she **can** have an abortion. Has this judge **ever** approved an abortion for an underage girl? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1569 "2022-08-26T14:00:36Z")
And, if she has bad grades, her grades will be likely to improve if in addition to her schooling she also has to deal with being pregnant and giving full-term birth! (not that there should be any possible doubt, but yes that is sarcasm) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1570 "2022-09-03T00:57:35Z")
The VA will provide abortions even in states that ban them. > **[Veterans Affairs says it will provide abortions — even in Texas](https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/02/va-abortions-veterans-texas/)** > > The VA follows the Department of Defense in providing access to abortion as several states, including Texas, essentially ban the procedure following the U.S. Supreme Court decision ending nationwide protection. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1571 "2022-09-03T02:25:12Z")
Any VA doctor who performs an abortion in Texas (unless to save the life of the mother) will be committing a felony under state law punishable by up to life in prison. This will come to a head when some DA inevitably tries to arrest a doctor at a VA hospital. Maybe the Waco VA will end up being the Fort Sumter of our times. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1572 "2022-09-03T02:48:00Z")
If the abortion is done on federal land (i/e VA hospital), the State would (likely) have no jurisdiction to charge anyone involved. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1573 "2022-09-03T03:03:52Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Smith had denied a 17-year-old seeking an abortion without parental consent in January this year on the basis that her grades were low and that she lacked “intelligence or credibility,” and was therefore not mature enough to get an abortion. I just thought of another one. She’s **not** mature enough to get an abortion, but she **is** mature enough to bring a child into this world and raise it? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1574 "2022-09-03T06:01:02Z")
Don’t be ridiculous! She’s mature enough to bring a child into this world and surrender it to a commander as a proper handmaid should. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1575 "2022-09-03T12:19:15Z")
You should be right, but I doubt that will keep our nutball Attorney General or some rural sheriff from trying to make an arrest. A few years back Texas Republicans almost passed legislation to arrest TSA officers who perform pat down searches. The bill only failed when TSA threatened to pull out of all Texas airports, shutting them down. The other issue is that SB 8 – the Texas legislation that allows anyone to sue anyone else who either performs or facilitates an abortion – is still on the books. As far as I know there’s no shield from being held civilly liable in state courts for actions on federal property. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1576 "2022-09-03T13:28:03Z")
There is discussion about having clinics on native lands to bypass the state law. Having a federal law is the only across the board solution. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1577 "2022-09-03T13:39:47Z")
And in New Mexico: > **[New Mexico governor commits $10 million to building new abortion clinic near...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/01/new-mexico-abortion-clinic-texas-border/7960745001/)** > > Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham signed an executive order Wednesday committing $10 million to build a reproductive health care clinic in Doña Ana County. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1578 "2022-09-03T13:53:48Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > A few years back Texas Republicans almost passed legislation to arrest TSA officers who perform pat down searches. The bill only failed when TSA threatened to pull out of all Texas airports, shutting them down. I’d love to see the VA threaten to pull out of abortion-banning states. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1579 "2022-09-04T07:08:35Z")
I’d enjoy seeing a bunch of Republican Governors threaten to kick out the VA. That could be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1580 "2022-09-10T16:46:43Z")
> **[Ginni Thomas is closely connected to more than half of the groups that...](https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-thomas-ginni-linked-anti-abortion-roe-wade-groups-report-2022-9)** > > Experts say her proximity to these groups raises ethical questions about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' vote to overturn Roe v. Wade > [@](#): > > Thirty-eight out of 74 — or 51% — of amicus briefs produced in support of a decision to overturn Roe v. Wade were produced by right-wing, religious, and conservative groups and individuals with ties to Justice Thomas, the analysis found. Not surprising, but needs to be put out there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862.md?page=79)