# Supreme Court has overturned Roe v. Wade (No longer a draft as of 06-24-2022.)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\
**Created:** [May 3, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862 "2022-05-03T01:04:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1621 "2022-11-21T00:09:45Z")

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Thanks!

What is your guess as to who leaked Dobbs? Just curious.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1622 "2022-11-21T00:14:34Z")

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I personally think the Justices themselves are above suspicion, but I haven’t followed this story close enough to go beyond that. As far as I know it could have been a spouse, a staffer, a visitor, even a hacker.

~Max

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1623 "2022-11-21T00:16:20Z")

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Yeah, none of us really know. It’s just weird that there was going to be this big investigation and then silence. That makes it more likely to me that it was an insider. Anyway, Discourse is nagging me that I’m replying directly to you too often, so I’ll bow out.

Thanks for the discussion!

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1624 "2022-11-21T14:39:43Z")

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my money is on a thomas.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1625 "2022-11-21T17:42:25Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Anyway, I remained surprised that SCOTUS Justices are telling anyone that info.

I’m not surprised at all. Ethics were left behind by the Republicans long ago. What makes anyone think that a Republican justice would have any ethics?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1626 "2022-11-22T04:27:57Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> That makes it more likely to me that it was an insider.

Alternatively, it might mean that the investigation came up dry. It’s not clear how tight security was on the copies of the decision. They may have been relying primarily on the honor system. If it was the least bit lax then it would be pretty easy to take it home make a copy and send it anonymously to a reporter, leaving no evidence to investigate.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1627 "2023-01-06T23:11:37Z")

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Hopefully this isn’t too much of a zombification, but it’s something I would not have expected:

> **[South Carolina Supreme Court strikes down state abortion ban](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-politics-health-south-carolina-state-government-6cd1469dbb550c70b64a30f183be203c)**
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> COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The South Carolina Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a ban on abortion after six weeks, ruling the restriction enacted by the Deep South state violates a state constitutional right to privacy.

Granted that I hadn’t given any thought to South Carolina post-_Dobbs_ (if I had, I would have assumed it was done ‘n’ dusted — I was kind of surprised that the ban made exceptions for rape and incest).

Since my mind tends to curl up in a ball and whimper when legal matters come up, I’ll toss this out for those more astute: can this be challenged in Federal court? If I read the article aright, the ban as written was overturned because it ran afoul of the right to privacy guaranteed by the State constitution. This implies (to me) that the State constitution grants a greater right to privacy than the US constitution, at least as far as reproduction is concerned. Could a Federal court rule that the State cannot grant greater constitutional rights than the US? My snap answer would be “no,” but obviously I have no basis for saying that; opinions pro or con would be appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1628 "2023-01-06T23:14:11Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> This implies (to me) that the State constitution grants a greater right to privacy than the US constitution, at least as far as reproduction is concerned. Could a Federal court rule that the State cannot grant greater constitutional rights than the US? My snap answer would be “no,” but obviously I have no basis for saying that; opinions pro or con would be appreciated.

The States are free to provide greater protections than those found in the US Constitution. The SCOTUS _shouldn’t_ get involved in this. These days, it’s hard to say.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1629 "2023-01-07T02:32:29Z")

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The news reports I heard on CNN said that because it was based on the state constitution it couldn’t get kicked over to the federal courts. The legislature can always attempt to write a new statute that will pass state constitutional muster, of course.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-has-overturned-roe-v-wade-no-longer-a-draft-as-of-06-24-2022/963862/1630 "2023-01-07T03:29:59Z")

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These people [make my head hurt](https://thehill.com/homenews/3800693-south-carolina-supreme-court-strikes-down-six-week-abortion-ban/)

> [@S C House Speaker Murrell Smith](#):
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> Today’s decision fails to respect the concept of separation of powers and strips the people of this state from having a say in a decision that was meant to reflect their voices. Instead, South Carolina is left with a decision that is not reflective of our state’s political process or will,

We must stop oppressing the people who want to subdue those nuisance females!

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