# Supreme Court: Religious Freedom More Important than Fighting Covid

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 26, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466 "2020-11-26T06:11:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/221 "2020-11-27T06:21:11Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> _South Bay Pentecostal Church v. Newsom_ :  
> _Although California’s guidelines place restrictions on_  
> _places of worship, those restrictions appear consistent with_ _the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. Similar_ _or more severe restrictions apply to comparable secular_ _gatherings, including lectures, concerts, movie showings,_ _spectator sports, and theatrical performances, where large_ _groups of people gather in close proximity for extended periods of time._

Funny that places of worship are not treated like bike shops and liquor stores isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/222 "2020-11-27T06:29:17Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> So, while yes _religions are entitled to first amendment protection_ they are only so far as their practices do not violate laws the pertain to all.

So according to you, a religious organization which has first amendment protection has the exact same status as a secular organization which does not have first amendment protection. Which would make the first amendment protection of religion meaningless.

The purpose of the first amendment is to say that there are some laws which violate the Constitution. And in such a case the law is invalid. If any legislative body could override the first amendment (or any part of the Constitution) by just enacting a law, then there would be no such thing as constitutional rights.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/223 "2020-11-27T08:15:59Z")

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> [@Tfletch1](#):
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> Again, shops, whether they’re bicycle, grocery, liquor, clothing **are low risk as judged by the experts.**

…which experts are those?

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/224 "2020-11-27T08:33:19Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> How are you going to be exposed at a Catholic Church that you don’t attend?

The same way that Kevin Bacon gives the disease to Kate Beckinsale, through John Malkovich.

Transmissions. They’re not just for cars.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/225 "2020-11-27T08:51:17Z")

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The justification for liquor stores being classified as essential was said to be because hardcore alcoholics can’t just stop drinking cold without running the real risk of life-threatening DT’s, convulsions, and death. Hospitals may not even have the capacity for them.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/226 "2020-11-27T10:50:55Z")

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Closed on November 27, 2020, 10:50am UTC



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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/227 "2020-11-27T10:53:34Z")

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**Modhat** : This thread is temporarily closed. It generated 14 flags overnight. I’m going to sort through the flags before I decide to reopen it or not.

For everyone remember, **Debate the post and not the poster**. You want to debate the poster, take it to the pit.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/228 "2020-11-27T11:01:20Z")

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**Warning** for **Saintly\_Loser,** you crossed the line many times in this thread. The warning is not just for this post but your posting in this thread. Attack the post(s) and not the poster(s).

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-religious-freedom-more-important-than-fighting-covid/926466/229 "2020-11-27T11:16:29Z")

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**Warning issued**

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> You are the problem. Not the solution.

This pushes past attack the post and not the poster. In addition to other posts in this thread by you. I’m issuing a warning.

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**Reviewing this thread, I’m going to leave it closed. It is derailed and not worth moving to the pit.**

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