# Supreme Court rules on abortion access and Trump tax returns next week **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 26, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214 "2020-06-26T15:27:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/81 "2020-07-09T14:50:34Z")
The countdown to a distraction of a Roger Stone pardon begins: 9…8…7… ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/82 "2020-07-09T14:52:28Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Trump lost both of the tax decsions 7-2 with Alito and Roberts dissenting. I believe you meant Alito and Thomas. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/83 "2020-07-09T14:52:53Z")
You are correct. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/84 "2020-07-09T14:54:26Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > This will likely delay things until after the election. Yep. Whatever the outcome at the lower courts, I don’t think anyone will see any records before the election, and probably not even before the inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/85 "2020-07-09T15:00:10Z")
Which is no bad thing, whether he wins the election or loses. Either way, he is likely going to be forced to disclose his taxes/finances in upcoming investigations and indictments. I mean, unless the lower court does the unthinkable and grants him some sort of immunity. Right? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/86 "2020-07-09T16:41:44Z")
What I’m hoping it means is that New York will have grand jury indictments locked and loaded by Jan. 20, 2021. At 12:01pm that date trump will be in Mar-a-Lago, where the FBI can pick him up for “Interstate flight to avoid prosecution.” Then drag his ass back to NYC in chains. On commercial. In coach. The Oklahoma case is going to have some interesting impacts, mostly unclear at this time. I personally think the tax ramifications will be the most interesting. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/87 "2020-07-09T17:25:02Z")
That was my thought as well on the Oklahoma case. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/88 "2020-07-09T17:33:37Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > He will lose his shit. He thinks he owns them. He’s already lost it – he’s been tweeting away like crazy over this ruling. I’m most amused by the fact that both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh sided with the majority including all the liberals, with only Thomas and Alito as the lunatic-fringe dissenters. 🙂 I’m sure he’s absolutely apoplectic about the fact that Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were supposed to be, first and foremost, TAKBFFLs (Trump’s Ass-Kissing Best Friends for Life) and they turned out to be, at least in some respect, justices of the Supreme Court. > [@mhendo](#): > > > [@mhendo](#): > > > > Looks like Trump is going to have to hand over his records to New York: > > Reading the case more closely, this was a bit of an oversimplification. He’s probably going to have to hand over at least some records, but it has to go back to the lower courts so that his attorneys can argue about it. They can argue that he shouldn’t have to release all his records, but they can’t use the fact that he’s President to refuse to release them. > > Either way, I don’t think that any of these tax return cases will be done by election time. That appears to be the bottom line here. I think Trump is sunk in November anyway. The Bolton and Mary Trump books together will probably do more damage than any tax returns might do, I imagine, since I think the tax returns will only establish that he’s a dishonest, incompetent businessman who isn’t remotely as rich as he claims – none of which should be news to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/89 "2020-07-09T17:40:40Z")
This is delayed until after the election. If Trump loses or wins he will continue to try to influence the courts by firing and hiring until the inauguration takes place, with Plan B being skipping the country with whatever money he doesn’t already have squirreled away overseas to a friendly (to him) country. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/90 "2020-07-09T17:41:22Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > That appears to be the bottom line here. I think Trump is sunk in November anyway. The Bolton and Mary Trump books together will probably do more damage than any tax returns might do, I imagine, since I think the tax returns will only establish that he’s a dishonest, incompetent businessman who isn’t remotely as rich as he claims – none of which should be news to anyone. I think exposing how indebted he is to Russia will be an excellent, “We fucking told you so!”, to all the MAGATS and enablers. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/91 "2020-07-09T17:43:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > …with Plan B being skipping the country with whatever money he doesn’t already have squirreled away overseas to a friendly (to him) country. What do you figure, Russia or Brazil? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/92 "2020-07-09T17:48:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > What do you figure, Russia or Brazil? Whichever one lets him keep the most money. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/93 "2020-07-09T17:49:28Z")
Russia. Bolsonaro has COVID, Putin doesn’t. And his admiration for Putin’s authoritarianism is boundless. Trump will kiss ass like there’s no tomorow. Plus in Russia, Ed Snowden could offer him “new resident” tips, like where to find the best borscht and perogies, and how to lose the FSB agents when they’re tailing you. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/94 "2020-07-09T17:56:23Z")
I’m convinced it will be a midnight flight(risk) to Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/95 "2020-07-09T18:07:59Z")
But Putin has no reason to coddle Trump. Trump will have no money and no power; why would Putin waste resources on him? It wouldn’t even work as a trophy thing: no one will care about Trump at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/96 "2020-07-09T18:45:16Z")
Trump probably has money hidden overseas so he can use that if he heads to Russia or somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/97 "2020-07-09T18:49:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > But Putin has no reason to coddle Trump. Trump will have no money and no power; why would Putin waste resources on him? It wouldn’t even work as a trophy thing: no one will care about Trump at that point. Having “possession” of an American President shows power. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/98 "2020-07-09T18:53:33Z")
Difficult as this is for me to say, Trump may yet be of some use. To Putin. After all, he can be reliably depended on spilling whatever secrets managed to lodge themselves in his syphilis addled brain. They’ll have to debrief him quickly and under medically induced conditions, but they’ll get something out of him. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/99 "2020-07-09T19:37:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > But Putin has no reason to coddle Trump. Trump will have no money and no power; why would Putin waste resources on him? It wouldn’t even work as a trophy thing: no one will care about Trump at that point I doubt that Trump has thought of that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214/100 "2020-07-09T19:49:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > At best, Trump will be _told_ to turn over his tax returns. I don’t see it happening. And I still don’t see it happening. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-rules-on-abortion-access-and-trump-tax-returns-next-week/913214.md?page=6)