# Supreme Court: Same-sex marriage legal nation wide

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 26, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532 "2015-06-26T14:19:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/1 "2015-06-26T14:19:12Z")

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[Breaking news on CNN…](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/politics/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-ruling/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/2 "2015-06-26T14:20:31Z")

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Love wins.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/3 "2015-06-26T14:22:08Z")

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I wasn’t expecting this. We—as Americans—have come a long way in a short time.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/4 "2015-06-26T14:25:06Z")

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It’s about frikkin’ time.

Congrats to the LGBT community. One of the biggest moments in US civil/human rights history.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/5 "2015-06-26T14:26:48Z")

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Awesome news:

> [@](#):
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> Held: The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State.

Here’s the opinion:

> **[14-556\_3204.pdf](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf)**

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/6 "2015-06-26T14:27:40Z")

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I was just reading part of Alito’s dissent, he cites the ability to procreate as a reason to oppose SSM. I haven’t read his whole opinion but my first thought was “Really? That tired argument is being trotted out AGAIN? Is he also opposed to straight couples who can’t or don’t want to have kids being allowed to marry?”

Anyhow, yay. I’m quite happy about the decision, great day for the country.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/7 "2015-06-26T14:28:42Z")

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As someone who was mildly against it (there’s a thread somewhere about it in these archives), I’m quite happy over the ruling. It’s about time to end such a loud debate over something that doesn’t hurt anyone.

Good Job Supreme Court!

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/8 "2015-06-26T14:33:13Z")

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Hahahahahahaaaaaa!!!

What was left of Scalia’s head has just exploded. 😃

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/9 "2015-06-26T14:43:48Z")

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Finally the U.S. has entered the 20th century!

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/10 "2015-06-26T14:50:05Z")

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> [@Leo\_Krupe](#):
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> Finally the U.S. has entered the 20th century!

Almost. Still no universal health care.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/11 "2015-06-26T14:51:43Z")

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> [@Valgard](#):
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> I was just reading part of Alito’s dissent, he cites the ability to procreate as a reason to oppose SSM. I haven’t read his whole opinion but my first thought was “Really? That tired argument is being trotted out AGAIN? Is he also opposed to straight couples who can’t or don’t want to have kids being allowed to marry?”
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> Anyhow, yay. I’m quite happy about the decision, great day for the country.

Ask the nearest hippie!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/12 "2015-06-26T14:56:38Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Hahahahahahaaaaaa!!!
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> What was left of Scalia’s head has just exploded. 😃

Only figuratively, alas…

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**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/13 "2015-06-26T14:59:32Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> As someone who was mildly against it (there’s a thread somewhere about it in these archives), I’m quite happy over the ruling. It’s about time to end such a loud debate over something that doesn’t hurt anyone.
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> Good Job Supreme Court!

Nicely said.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/14 "2015-06-26T15:09:20Z")

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So, from a practical standpoint, what needs to happen now before same-sex couples in the holdout states can start getting married? Can Adam and Steve show up at the county clerk’s office right when it opens and insist on a license, or does it take time for the ruling to trickle down to their level? Is there any more jiggery-pokery that Roy Moore or his type can use to try to delay things further?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/15 "2015-06-26T15:11:08Z")

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Yeahhh! Great news!

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/16 "2015-06-26T15:13:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So, from a practical standpoint, what needs to happen now before same-sex couples in the holdout states can start getting married? Can Adam and Steve show up at the county clerk’s office right when it opens and insist on a license, or does it take time for the ruling to trickle down to their level? Is there any more jiggery-pokery that Roy Moore or his type can use to try to delay things further?

I’m not sure, but my WAG is the ruling is immediate. Probably tomorrow at the very latest, gay people can get hitched wherever they can.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/17 "2015-06-26T15:17:24Z")

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My only regret is that the split was so narrow. Reactionaries are going to complain about a 5-4 verdict, in ways that they wouldn’t be able to for, say, a 7-2.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/18 "2015-06-26T15:17:32Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Is there any more jiggery-pokery that Roy Moore or his type can use to try to delay things further?

I’m assuming he’ll go full George Wallace in the clerk’s doorway, not sure which county though.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/19 "2015-06-26T15:19:00Z")

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More seriously, I read this, which is interesting:

> [@](#):
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> Presumably, gay couples will be able to start getting married within days. In Alabama, it could happen even faster. That is because Mobile-based U.S. District Judge Callie V.S. “Ginny” Granade, whose Jan. 23 ruling set off a protracted tug-of-war with state officials, issued a ruling May 21 specifically applying the ruling to all 68 probate judges.
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> She had put the order on hold pending the outcome of the Supreme Court case. That means Granade’s order to all probate judges to treat gay couples the same as heterosexual couples takes effect immediately.

> **[Supreme Court strikes down gay marriage bans](https://www.al.com/news/2015/06/gay_marriage_is_the_law_of_the.html)**
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> The Supreme Court's decision on same-sex marriage arguably was the most highly anticipated of the term.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/20 "2015-06-26T15:29:23Z")

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And if some county clerk still refuses to issue a marriage license? Do you need to get a lawyer?

Still, great news.

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