# Supreme Court: Same-sex marriage legal nation wide

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 26, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532 "2015-06-26T14:19:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/121 "2015-06-26T21:41:57Z")

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SO confused by these republicans crying religious freedom. Here’s how it works. If someone says, “Wow. I’m glad gays can marry now”, and you respond with, “it’s an attack on Christianity,” by responding with that YOU’RE putting war on your own religion!

But that’s fine with me. Let 'em keep talking. The more they say about it, the more ridiculous they look.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/122 "2015-06-26T21:50:40Z")

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I heard or read somewhere that opposing gay marriage because it’s against your religion is like opposing doughnuts because you’re on a diet.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/123 "2015-06-26T21:58:13Z")

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As in Michigan, the governor of Ohio (potential Republican candidate Kasich) has stated that he disagrees, but now it’s settled law, so it must be accepted.

There were at least two marriages in Dayton this afternoon.

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/124 "2015-06-26T22:01:18Z")

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I am so happy for everyone who is finally going to be able to marry the person they love. Wonderful news. Just wonderful.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/125 "2015-06-26T22:05:33Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> As in Michigan, the governor of Ohio (potential Republican candidate Kasich) has stated that he disagrees, but now it’s settled law, so it must be accepted.
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> There were at least two marriages in Dayton this afternoon.

A lot of Republicans are saying the same sort of thing, but I can’t help but wonder if it’s mostly to placate their Party, and secretly they’re all, “WHOOO! FREEDOM! EQUALITY! AMERICA! FUCK YEH!”

Probably not.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/126 "2015-06-26T22:05:48Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I heard or read somewhere that opposing gay marriage because it’s against your religion is like opposing doughnuts because you’re on a diet.

Well, **a lot** of the most vocal opponents of gay marriage and LGBT rights seem to be getting caught engaging in _teh ghey_ on a regular basis, so I can sorta see their point. The whole I can’t resist my baser urges when confronted with cut young studs prancing around in their gay-shorts and tank tops, all sweaty and slick with…ummm…where was I?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/127 "2015-06-26T22:23:15Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Sorry to keep quoting Buzzfeed (confession: I don’t really read the Web other than here and there lol) but I was really taken aback at all the brands that were promoting #LoveWins today. I’m used to things going “right” and then hearing nothing but backlash from “the right” and all the sour grapes who are opposed.
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> [But seeing all of these national brands tweeting their pride](http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarrylee/love-wins#.bubRKWvdd) - instead of hiding it or ignoring it - made me super extra happy today.

I’ve been seeing this little 30 second Tylenol ad on the TV for the past week or so.

About non-traditional families rather than gay families specifically, but it's a really nice piece of work -- and I don't know if it's new but it's kind of cool that it seemed to be in heavy rotation for the past week or so.

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**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/128 "2015-06-26T22:26:03Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’m ecstatic for you. If you’re truly going to be married soon, a ginormous congratulations to you and your family.

😃

**Queen Tonya** and her husband witnessed our vows to each other four years ago. We went to an attorney and did as much as we could on the legal side then vowed our commitment in front of them. As soon as we can make it right in our schedules we’d like to have them be our _legal_ witnesses. The sooner the better.

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**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/129 "2015-06-26T22:45:53Z")

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> Best line of the day:
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> “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the tears of Antonin Scalia.”

Magnificent.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/130 "2015-06-26T23:08:12Z")

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> [@Fiveroptic](#):
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> 😃
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> **Queen Tonya** and her husband witnessed our vows to each other four years ago. We went to an attorney and did as much as we could on the legal side then vowed our commitment in front of them. As soon as we can make it right in our schedules we’d like to have them be our _legal_ witnesses. The sooner the better.

I didn’t know that. So glad you can make it (legally) real just like anyone else. Too cool! 🙂

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/131 "2015-06-26T23:27:27Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> My favorite comment of petulance so far was someone saying that Reagan’s legacy is now that he destroyed America by nominating Kennedy to the Supreme Court.

For a moment, Liberals and Conservatives agreed:

"Justice Kennedy’s deciding vote in the case, as well as his majority opinion, show that he has no right to have the word ‘Justice’ associated with him, and we need to take every step necessary to get a Constitutional amendment passed to overturn Obertizens Fellnited v. Hodgeral Gislection Commission.

No, not Citberg Unifell v. Federal Election Hodges - Obertizens Fellnited v. Hodgeral Gislection Commission! Don’t deflect from the point by replacing the basic human right the court upheld with that perfect example of legislating from the bench."

Things broke down at that point.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/132 "2015-06-26T23:33:01Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I heard or read somewhere that opposing gay marriage because it’s against your religion is like opposing doughnuts because you’re on a diet.

Have you SEEN that yogurt commercial where the women are running around making OTHER PEOPLE’s donuts smaller because THEY don’t want to eat them?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/133 "2015-06-26T23:34:02Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I’ve been seeing this little 30 second Tylenol ad on the TV for the past week or so.
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> About non-traditional families rather than gay families specifically, but it's a really nice piece of work -- and I don't know if it's new but it's kind of cool that it seemed to be in heavy rotation for the past week or so.

That video is directed by Dustin Lance Black, Academy Award winner and boyfriend of British diver Tom Dailey.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/134 "2015-06-26T23:39:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Have you SEEN that yogurt commercial where the women are running around making OTHER PEOPLE’s donuts smaller because THEY don’t want to eat them?

I just wanted to pile on to the good news today, that in _other_ news, Reese’s just released a new chocolate-peanut butter spread!

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/135 "2015-06-27T00:14:28Z")

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Scalia has been whining more than a sick toddler lately. I would know- Lil’ Neville was home sick from daycare today.

> [@Valgard](#):
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> I was just reading part of Alito’s dissent, he cites the ability to procreate as a reason to oppose SSM. I haven’t read his whole opinion but my first thought was “Really? That tired argument is being trotted out AGAIN? Is he also opposed to straight couples who can’t or don’t want to have kids being allowed to marry?”
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> Anyhow, yay. I’m quite happy about the decision, great day for the country.

I’m glad that was a dissent. Otherwise, I might have to worry about my marriage when I get my tubes tied after Baby Neville is born next month. After all, I won’t be able to procreate any more…

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/136 "2015-06-27T00:32:26Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’m not trying to be obtuse, I just don’t get it. There’s plenty of other married couples that don’t abide by Christian teachings.
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> Interracial used to be one. What about Atheists marrying? What about Muslims? Hindus? Buddhists?
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> The argument from the Right, seems to be largely, if not totally, from a Christian viewpoint; as marriage defined by Jehovah between a man and woman. But how can they, on one hand, deny homosexuals marriage, yet in the other be totally cool about men and women marrying under a different god—or no god at all—than the one in which they believe? If marriage is truly a religious mandate from God Himself, then how are the religious conservatives glossing over these other issues in matrimony?
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> I’m just not buying it. Utter and complete bullshit.

The Bible has a lot more to say about interfaith marriages than it does about anything having to do with gays. The Bible is generally not in favor of interfaith marriages. Yet those are legal, and the anti-gay-marriage crusaders don’t seem to care.

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**Author:** ![JayRx1981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71e660/32.png) [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/137 "2015-06-27T01:06:21Z")

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I came out at 19 years of age back in 2000 and thought there was a good chance this might never happen in my lifetime. It’s absolutely amazing how far this country has come in less than 2 decades, to see the beginnings of marriage equality while I’m still relatively young. Kudos to the 5 Justices for making the right call!

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/138 "2015-06-27T01:26:03Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> What I think they object to is they view homosexuality as a sin, so they see the government as legitimizing that sin. It would be as if the government said stealing or adultery was now legal.

But adultery IS legal in a number of states. There’s no law against it here in PA, or in many other states. Why haven’t we heard anything about this from the culture warriors trying to keep gay marriage illegal?

Jesus explicitly said that remarrying after a divorce was adultery. That’s legal in all 50 states, and these people don’t seem to care.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/139 "2015-06-27T01:38:27Z")

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> [@JayRx1981](#):
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> Kudos to the 5 Justices for making the right call!

Not just the five Justices, but also the 11-out-of-15 Circuit Court of Appeals Justices and too many lower level federal and state court judges to count. Some people may grumble about “five people in black robes” but they were upholding the decisions of a vast majority of judges over the last decade appointed and confirmed across the political spectrum. This wasn’t “Kennedy just wanted to make history” but a decision reached that has been the prevailing opinion of a lot of learned legal minds. Frankly, it’s a little sad that it was a 5-4 split in the SCotUS and somewhat delusional to assume that it must have been Kennedy et al ruling based on politics or partisanship.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-legal-nation-wide/723532/140 "2015-06-27T02:04:58Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’m not sure, but my WAG is the ruling is immediate. Probably tomorrow at the very latest, gay people can get hitched wherever they can.

Not in Louisiana, where they are [still delaying](http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/bobby_jindal_administration_sa_1.html) until their lower court case is heard. In fact, that’s how I learned of the news. Someone said “And Louisiana still won’t recognize SSM.” I was having a bit of a bad day and didn’t want to read any bad news, so I hadn’t looked.

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