# Supreme Court upholds the Voting Rights Act in Alabama?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 8, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204 "2023-06-08T15:15:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/21 "2023-06-09T15:27:16Z")
The people who are surprised seem to think the Supreme Court is just blatantly out to enforce right-wing outcomes, and that there could never be any legit or constitutional reason for them to make the rulings they do. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/22 "2023-06-09T15:31:54Z")
Uh, yeah? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/23 "2023-06-09T17:15:18Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > The people who are surprised seem to think the Supreme Court is just blatantly out to enforce right-wing outcomes, and that there could never be any legit or constitutional reason for them to make the rulings they do. I’d substitute “hasn’t recently” for “could never”, but other than that, yeah, you pretty well nailed the current Reactionary Wacko SCOTUS. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/24 "2023-06-12T18:15:00Z")
Also noting that Thomas apparently dissented for, like, fifty pages, so yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/25 "2023-06-12T18:17:42Z")
Harlan Crow must have had a really strong opinion about this. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/26 "2023-06-12T18:34:17Z")
Must admit, interesting vibe here of “they have even taken away our ability to enjoy a win”. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/27 "2023-06-12T19:56:59Z")
Hispanics seem to be more conservative generally yet Republicans keep dumping on them like crazy. Makes no sense to me. Hispanics voting Republican is basically voting for the [Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces-party) Same for Log Cabin Republicans. (IIRC there was a famous case of this happening where a woman in Florida voted for Trump and then was shocked when her husband got deported.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/28 "2023-06-13T00:40:24Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Hispanics voting Republican is basically voting for the [Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces-party) Same for Log Cabin Republicans. (IIRC there was a famous case of this happening where a woman in Florida voted for Trump and then was shocked when her husband got deported.) That’s because the values that Republicans claim to stand for really resonate in a cultural way. It’s too bad that’s not borne out by their actions. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/29 "2023-06-13T00:47:27Z")
Then again, they probably wouldn’t have those beliefs to begin with if it weren’t for white colonialism, so it really all goes back to the same source. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/30 "2023-06-13T02:24:46Z")
Hey, kinda hard to have a _ **Hispan** ic_ ethnicity without European colonization! But after 500 years I believe we get to, as is said these days, “own” our decisions. But really esto es un hijack so back to your regularly scheduled pessimism. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/31 "2023-07-19T18:29:55Z")
Supreme Court? Never heard of them. > **[Proposed Alabama map rejects Supreme Court-mandated second Black-majority...](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4102476-proposed-alabama-district-map-rejects-supreme-court-mandated-second-black-majority-district/)** > > Alabama Republicans tasked by the U.S. Supreme Court with redrawing the state’s congressional map are so far rejecting the court’s order to create a second majority-Black district in the state. &nb… Alabama just decided that they don’t really need to listen to the Supreme Court. And by the time someone complains, files a lawsuit, and it works its way back up the chain we’ll be at least another election or two in. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/32 "2023-07-26T18:39:06Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Supreme Court? Never heard of them. > > [https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4102476-proposed-alabama-district-map-rejects-supreme-court-mandated-second-black-majority-district/](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4102476-proposed-alabama-district-map-rejects-supreme-court-mandated-second-black-majority-district/) > > Alabama just decided that they don’t really need to listen to the Supreme Court. And by the time someone complains, files a lawsuit, and it works its way back up the chain we’ll be at least another election or two in. I don’t come to this forum regularly so I didn’t see it when it was first posted. As I was reading it today for the first time I was thinking they would just change the map but still not comply. It only took until the end of the thread to prove me right. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/33 "2023-07-26T18:58:57Z")
> [@MulderMuffin](#): > > Alabama just decided that they don’t really need to listen to the Supreme Court More “Yes, but what if _we don’t_?” thinking. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/34 "2023-07-26T20:23:25Z")
Louisiana decided that this sounded like a fine idea to them and decided to ignore the Supreme Court ruling, as well. Let me correct myself: Louisiana decided to fight and appeal (though I’m not sure to whom you’d appeal if you didn’t like what the Supreme Court has to say about something). ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/35 "2023-07-26T20:40:19Z")
Which evokes the apocryphal Andrew Jackson quote, “John Marshall has made his decision now let him enforce it.” ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/36 "2023-09-05T16:38:37Z")
The Alabama courts have thrown out the still-gerrymandered map that ignored the Supreme Court ruling to create another majority black voting district and has decided to appoint a special master to redraw the maps since the legislature refuses to follow the court order. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/politics/alabama-congressional-district/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/05/politics/alabama-congressional-district/index.html) > “We are deeply troubled that the State enacted a map that the State readily admits does not provide the remedy we said federal law requires,” the judges, two of whom were appointed by former President Donald Trump, wrote. > The judges ordered a special master to submit three proposed maps that would create a second Black-majority district by September 25. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/37 "2023-09-26T14:28:25Z")
The Supreme Court unanimously rejected Alabama’s attempt to use their non-compliant map for the 2024 election. I guess even the conservative justices couldn’t stomach such a blatant disregard for the Court’s decision. > **[Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-alabamas-bid-use-congressional-map-just-one-majo-rcna105688)** > > The court’s decision is in line with its June ruling in the same case that reaffirmed key protections for minority voters. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/38 "2023-09-26T18:18:26Z")
Yeah, that one’s gonna hurt, and hopefully leave a mark. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/39 "2023-09-26T20:17:23Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > The Supreme Court unanimously rejected Alabama’s attempt to use their non-compliant map for the 2024 election. I guess even the conservative justices couldn’t stomach such a blatant disregard for the Court’s decision. > > [Supreme Court rejects Alabama’s bid to use congressional map with just one majority-Black district](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-alabamas-bid-use-congressional-map-just-one-majo-rcna105688) I think the Supreme’s are well aware that what’s legal for Republicans is also legal for Democrats. They pass a ruling that ends up giving Republicans one or two extra Congressional seats in a conservative southern states. Then, in a year or two, some highly populated liberal states, like NY, California or Illinois come up with maps that flip 10+ traditionally Republican districts to Democratic ones. They don’t want to set that precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204/40 "2023-09-26T20:26:40Z")
From the article: > [@](#): > > Two conservatives — Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh — joined the three liberal justices in the majority in the Supreme Court ruling **in June**. > > **But the court did leave open future challenges** to the law, with Kavanaugh writing in a separate opinion that his vote did not rule out challenges to Section 2 based on whether there is a time when the 1965 law’s authorization of considering race in redistricting is no longer justified. > > Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall seized upon Kavanaugh’s pronouncements in his request to block the lower court rulings [**in September**]. The AG is just following Kavanaugh’s instructions: “Times have changed since June! that was, like, months ago!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-court-upholds-the-voting-rights-act-in-alabama/985204.md?page=3)