# Supreme Courts Mandates and Lies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813 "2016-05-03T22:42:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/41 "2016-05-04T14:32:09Z")

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how is babble formed?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/42 "2016-05-04T14:48:40Z")

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> [@tony424](#):
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> Because you are forcing taxes and taking my SSI to feed some one others bastards kids’ and their whoore Mothers “you disgraceful Morons”.

You actually pronounce the word “whoore”, don’t you? Like Archie Bunker would.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/43 "2016-05-04T14:51:25Z")

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Bastards, orphans, sons of whoores and Scotsmen…

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**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/44 "2016-05-04T14:53:59Z")

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Welcome to the Dope, Mrs. Palin!

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/45 "2016-05-04T14:54:07Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I feel like I should run the Opening Post of this thread through Google Translate, but I’m not sure of the original language. Is it Iroquois? Icelandic? Belgian?

I _think_ it’s English. Kindasorta. Best guess is the OP stuffed a Merriam Webster Unabridged Dictionary into a giant food processor and set it to “mangle.”

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> how is babble formed?

Well, when a mommy bab and a daddy bab love each other very much …

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/46 "2016-05-04T14:55:10Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> I don’t if Tony is referring to [Increase Mather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Increase_Mather) or to [Cotton Mather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_Mather), but there is no historical evidence that either reverend gentleman fornicated outside wedlock: they were both pillars of the community in the Massachusetts Bay Colony – though they may have been a little over-zealous in persecuting witches.

Jerry

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/47 "2016-05-04T15:13:13Z")

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I see he defined Whoor but not whoore. Is there a difference? Inquiring minds want to know.

Also, a friend of mine wants to know where I, um, I mean he, can meet some of these Whoor/whoore people.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/48 "2016-05-04T15:26:11Z")

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> [@tony424](#):
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> Thanks to our educated leaders for demising family unions by making morally legal marriage between couples of same sex, then why we are prosecuting people that have sex with “Enamels” why we are prosecuting Polygamist Isn’t that same in my opinion it is!!!

Enamels?

Even Urban Dictionary was stumped.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/49 "2016-05-04T15:36:54Z")

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Obvious troll parody from one of our resident trolls.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/50 "2016-05-04T15:38:16Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> how is babble formed?

OK. I chuckled over that.

I’m wondering under what circumstances a judge would pronounce that a school system is not fully funded, let alone that “state school” are not fully funded. I haven’t heard of any lawsuits or criminal cases involving school funding, which I imagine would be a necessary precursor to judicial prounouncements.

Also, is “not fully funded” intended to mean underfunded? Or is it implying that the funds were collected and then not properly disbursed to the schools? I don’t think a judge would be that imprecise.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/51 "2016-05-04T15:44:08Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> I don’t if Tony is referring to [Increase Mather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Increase_Mather) or to [Cotton Mather](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_Mather), but there is no historical evidence that either reverend gentleman fornicated outside wedlock: they were both pillars of the community in the Massachusetts Bay Colony – though they may have been a little over-zealous in persecuting witches.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> Jerry

Possible. I am led to believe that The Beaver has been complicit in a great number of out-of-wedlock births.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/52 "2016-05-04T16:01:18Z")

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Ward, you were a little hard on The Beaver last night.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/53 "2016-05-04T19:51:52Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@tony424](#):
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> > _\<snips lunacy\>_
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> That is one of the very best examples I’ve seen of “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

[Moderating]  
**Der Trihs** , altering someone else’s text inside a quote box is against the rules. Please avoid this in the future.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/54 "2016-05-04T20:03:11Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> I’m wondering under what circumstances a judge would pronounce that a school system is not fully funded, let alone that “state school” are not fully funded. I haven’t heard of any lawsuits or criminal cases involving school funding, which I imagine would be a necessary precursor to judicial prounouncements.
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> Also, is “not fully funded” intended to mean underfunded? Or is it implying that the funds were collected and then not properly disbursed to the schools? I don’t think a judge would be that imprecise.

I’m too lazy to look it up, but I believe there’s been a case ongoing for nearly 30 years in Missouri that asserts that the way the state provides school funding has a disproportionately negative impact on poor school districts. I heard something on the radio about the state legislature being poised to tell the judge, who seems to be ruling that the state ought to fix this somehow, that he should go pound sand.

I’ll let you guess which party is standing up for the right not to provide more money to poorer school districts.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/55 "2016-05-05T20:10:08Z")

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Thank you **Ravenman.** You were much less lazy than I was. So there is a Judge pronouncing, or getting ready to pronounce, but only in Missouri and only addressing the procedures for disbursal of State funds to schools (or possibly to school districts).

I’m guessing this would not affect County-level property tax disbursals, assuming those are occurring.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/56 "2016-05-05T20:30:39Z")

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Sorry, could not penetrate that OP. My brain refused.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/57 "2016-05-05T20:59:25Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Thank you **Ravenman.** You were much less lazy than I was. So there is a Judge pronouncing, or getting ready to pronounce, but only in Missouri and only addressing the procedures for disbursal of State funds to schools (or possibly to school districts).

It’s a constant issue of litigation in [New York](http://www.wnyc.org/story/school-funding-case-returns-court/) as well. The Court of Appeals (NY’s highest court) found that the existing legislative formula for disbursing state aid to school districts did not meet the requirements of the state constitution, and told the legislature to fix it. At issue now is whether or not the legislature’s new formula meets the requirements of the original judgment.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/supreme-courts-mandates-and-lies/753813/58 "2016-05-05T22:37:58Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> > [@Yllaria](#):
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> > Thank you **Ravenman.** You were much less lazy than I was. So there is a Judge pronouncing, or getting ready to pronounce, but only in Missouri and only addressing the procedures for disbursal of State funds to schools (or possibly to school districts).
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> It’s a constant issue of litigation in [New York](http://www.wnyc.org/story/school-funding-case-returns-court/) as well. The Court of Appeals (NY’s highest court) found that the existing legislative formula for disbursing state aid to school districts did not meet the requirements of the state constitution, and told the legislature to fix it. At issue now is whether or not the legislature’s new formula meets the requirements of the original judgment.

Right - it happens to states that themselves have specific state-statute, state-case-law or state-constitutional mandates about education funding.

Our communicationally hindered OP seems to be among those who, in the fog of ignorance, forget that there are such things as state laws, state courts, state taxes, state budgets and state constitutions, handling things not covered in the six big pieces of parchment in a case at the National Archive. He could move elsewhere if he doesn’t like school funding where he is, if he can find the way out of his room in his condition (alas, there are “whoores” and bastards everywhere, those he can’t get away from)(and Thank Og there are “whoores” everywhere).

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