# Sure signs a movie sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839 "2004-07-06T20:57:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/101 "2004-07-07T23:38:07Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > -Any movie about Mars other than Total Recal. O\_o … Tot… _shakes head sadly_ > [@](#): > > -Any movie based on a videogame You enjoy Total Recall, so clearly you can turn your mind off, yet you can’t appriciate a goofy movie like Super Mario Brothers? And Final Fantasy: The Spirits within is just good. > [@](#): > > -Any movie about vampires or werewolves Further ‘exceptions’: Universal and Hammer Dracula films. Ginger Snaps. (Haven’t seen the sequel, yet.) The Lost Boys (Very 80s, but pretty good if that’s not going to bother you.) ---
**Author:** ![Middlea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@Middlea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Middlea)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/102 "2004-07-08T00:02:04Z")
Any movie that advertises “featuring Walter Koenig - ‘Chekov’ of Star Trek”. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/103 "2004-07-08T00:08:12Z")
About werewolves and vampire movies - Yes there are good movies out there. But I have to say that the last one that I actually enjoyed was “Blade”. It’s a genre that’s been done to death without offering anything new. Super Mario Bros? Street Fighter? I was thinking how I can’t sit though Tomb Raider without falling asleep. Oh and let me add any direct to DVD sequal to a theatrical release - American Psycho 2, Bring it on Again, The Skulls II, Cruel Intentions II etc ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/104 "2004-07-08T01:03:01Z")
I movie that combines two unrelated concepts. Example: “Cheerleading Ninjas” (I shit you not, that’s a movie. The tagline was "They’re out for revenge, just don’t ask them to spell it. I was tempted to rent it.) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/105 "2004-07-08T01:08:07Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > I movie that combines two unrelated concepts. Example: “Cheerleading Ninjas” (I shit you not, that’s a movie. The tagline was "They’re out for revenge, just don’t ask them to spell it. I was tempted to rent it.) Another example would be “Surf Nazi’s Must Die.” ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/106 "2004-07-08T02:44:08Z")
Re: SNL > [@msmith537](#): > > …like Mike (Shrek, Wayne’s World) Meyers? Will (Old School) Farrell? Eddie (Beverley Hills Cop, Trading Places) Murphy? Dan (Ghostbusters, not Coneheads) Ackroyd, Adam (Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore) Sandler? Chevy (Fletch) Chase? > > SNL produced more than just Dana Carvey and that Superstar!! bitch. Mike Meyers: Shrek, Wayne’s World, Austin Powers vs. Wayne’s World 2, So I Married and Axe Murderer, Austin Powers 2, Austin Powers 3. Will Farrell: never seen him, don’t know him. Eddie Murphy: Trading Places, Raw, Dr. Doolittle vs. Beverly Hills Cop, BHC 2, BHC 3, 48 Hours, Another 48 Hours, Delirious, Dr, Doolittle 2, Daddy Day Care, Haunted House, Pluto Nash. Adam Sandler: The only thing I would ever pay to watch this man do is ram his head inside a running blender. Chevy Chase & Dan Ackroyd: good up through the Reagan administration, but the last 15 years have been pure toxic waste (Nothing but Trouble) I’d still say the SNL rule holds pretty well, with the exception of Meyers (and even in his case, I’d beware of sequels). ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/107 "2004-07-08T02:50:00Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > Will Farrell: never seen him, don’t know him. Other than the stuff he’s done in the various Kevin Smith films, and his impression of GeeDubya during the “Election 2000” debacle, you haven’t missed much as far as I can tell. Chevy Chase did **one** hysterical segment on his talk show (of course, he stole it from someone else, but it was still funny). ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/108 "2004-07-08T02:54:45Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > The Lost Boys (Very 80s, but pretty good if that’s not going to bother you.) The movie that manages to be really cool DESPITE the presence of Corey Feldman, Corey Haim AND Jami Gertz, three actors who are usually reliable “this is a bad movie, please run away” indicators. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/109 "2004-07-08T03:04:01Z")
I used to like Mike Myers. Both Wayne’s World movies were good, So I Married an Axe Murderer is okay, Austin Powers was funny, and the first time I saw it most of the second one was very funny. It falls apart on repeat viewings and the third one was complete shit, and then you look at movies like The Cat in the Hat… I think he’s gotten really ingratiating and stopped being funny. Will Farrell: death is too good for him. Eddie Murphy: also hit and miss. > [@](#): > > Adam Sandler: The only thing I would ever pay to watch this man do is ram his head inside a running blender. Couldn’t have said it better myself. If you counted it, there has to be more in the ‘bad SNL’ column than the good, especially if you restrict it to movies made out of recurring characters (Night at the Roxbury, anybody?). But there are some really good ones in there, and at least one great one: The Blues Brothers. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/110 "2004-07-08T03:13:33Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by Rabid Child_ > Didn’t this happen with Pluto Nash? Unfortunately, it was released. That’s the example I couldn’t remember. A PERFECT example. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/111 "2004-07-08T03:39:35Z")
Sandler was pretty good in The Wedding Singer, but that was a movie that featured Adam Sandler, rather than An Adam Sandler Movie. Other than that ‘inoffensive’ is the best I can say for any of his movies. I agree with Meyers and Murphy being hit or miss, but both Shrek movies featured both and kicked ass, so they’re someone you just need to be sure you know what the movie is. Aykroyd tanked in the early-mid nineties. Chevy Chase…about when he left SNL, actually, altough the first Vacation film was good. Will Ferrel clearly has made a deal with Satan in order to have a carreer. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/112 "2004-07-08T03:48:28Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I used to like Mike Myers. Both Wayne’s World movies were good, So I Married an Axe Murderer is okay, Austin Powers was funny, and the first time I saw it most of the second one was very funny. It falls apart on repeat viewings and the third one was complete shit, and then you look at movies like The Cat in the Hat… I think he’s gotten really ingratiating and stopped being funny. Ingratiating? Since when has that been a bad thing? ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/113 "2004-07-08T03:55:57Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Will Ferrel clearly has made a deal with Satan in order to have a carreer. Really? I thought he was great in “Elf.” Could have been better in “Old School” though. I’m looking forward to “Anchorman.” ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/114 "2004-07-08T04:22:34Z")
Every time I see his face, I want to punch him in the mouth, so clearly, we disagree on this point. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/115 "2004-07-08T04:42:03Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > And Final Fantasy: The Spirits within is just good. If The Spirits Within had been titled something other than Final Fantasy, I would have liked it. That movie was in no way Final Fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/116 "2004-07-08T05:22:13Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Ingratiating? Since when has that been a bad thing? It’s negative in the sense that he seems to desperately want me to like him, which is unfunny and makes me uncomfortable. Comedians need personality, and some of the bad ones come off like puppy dogs who’ll do anything to please you. ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/117 "2004-07-08T05:49:18Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Heretic! How dare you insult the award-winning, day-glo abortion that is [Street Fighter](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111301/)! Day-glo Abortion? Band name! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/118 "2004-07-08T05:56:04Z")
> [@lambchops](#): > > Day-glo Abortion? Band name! [Been done.](http://www.godrecords.com/dayglos/) ---
**Author:** ![Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rex_fenestrarum/32/7265_2.png) [@Rex\_Fenestrarum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rex_Fenestrarum)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/119 "2004-07-08T06:18:00Z")
_Pluto Nash_ wasn’t “released” - it “escaped”! Also thought I’d bring up a situation when a movie is so bad that the studio attaches it to another, more popular movie. The perfect example: **Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid** It’s being billed as a sequel to the (moderately) popular _Anaconda_, yet the film - set in Borneo - was originally written as a separate, stand-alone movie. The studio - apparently not knowing that anaconda snakes are only found in South America - decided to re-brand it to take advantage of whatever _Anaconda_ had going for it. Anybody heard about the new [Exorcist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204313/) film? Paul Schrader directed it and had a final print ready to go, but the studio “didn’t like it” and hired (gasp!) RENNY HARLIN to remake it. Yeah, I know… Anyway, the interesting thing about it is that while Harlin’s version will be shown in theatres, the DVD is supposed to include _both_ versions of the movie, which marks the first time that Hollywood has released two completely different versions _of the same film_! Can anyone think of another example? ---
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839/120 "2004-07-08T08:24:12Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Ginger Snaps. (Haven’t seen the sequel, yet.) It’s really good. As good as the first one, I thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sure-signs-a-movie-sucks/253839.md?page=7)