# Surely, don't miss Zero Hour! (1957) today on TCM at 2:45 ET.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 11, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711 "2018-07-11T13:44:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/21 "2018-07-11T19:08:03Z")

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Why are seats A and B on the starboard side of the airplane? :dubious: 😕

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/22 "2018-07-11T19:12:56Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Over Macho Grande?

I’ll never get over Macho Grande

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/23 "2018-07-11T19:19:48Z")

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If they had to request permission to go to 10,000 feet, what the hell altitude were they at before? 😕

Good thing the doc had his black bag under the seat in front of him, eh?

Great idea, give morphine to the pilot!

Janet, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! :o

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/24 "2018-07-11T19:21:39Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> I’ll never get over Macho Grande

Me neither. ☹

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/25 "2018-07-11T19:33:17Z")

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Why are the instruments ticking all over the place if there’s nothing wrong with the airplane? 😕

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/26 "2018-07-11T19:47:34Z")

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Love the way they confuse Spitfires, P-36es, Bf-109s, Bf-108s…

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/27 "2018-07-11T19:48:59Z")

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Sterling Hayden, who played Trelaven, was still acting when Airplane! was made. I wonder if Zucker Abrahams Zucker tried to get him to play Rex Kramer before they got Robert Stack.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/28 "2018-07-11T19:56:50Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Sterling Hayden, who played Trelaven, was still acting when Airplane! was made. I wonder if Zucker Abrahams Zucker tried to get him to play Rex Kramer before they got Robert Stack.

That’s _exactly_ what they’d be expecting them to do!

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/29 "2018-07-11T20:02:09Z")

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I think Sterling Hayden and Robert Stack were separated at birth.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/30 "2018-07-11T20:03:12Z")

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Whoops! Four o’clock. Time for _ **Jeopardy!** _☹

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/31 "2018-07-11T20:05:44Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> That’s a different meme _altogether_!

That’s a different meme.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/32 "2018-07-11T20:07:43Z")

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Why was there no fire when the plane crash-landed? 😕

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/33 "2018-07-11T20:36:45Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Why was there no fire when the plane crash-landed? 😕

Because the fuel tanks didn’t get ruptured.

Whether or not that would happen in real life depends. But it isn’t a given.

Landing gear doesn’t snap off like the plane is a giant plastic model, either. [It’s pretty tough.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17-EH4j6pBM)

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/34 "2018-07-11T20:37:36Z")

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Well, I guess we all learned never eat Canadian halibut without knowing whom prepared it!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/35 "2018-07-11T20:39:18Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Why was there no fire when the plane crash-landed? 😕

Because the little plastic model they used would have melted.

Really, lots of planes crash and don’t burst into flames. Here’s one from[just this week](https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/11-people-rescued-after-plane-crashes-in-alaska-1274160707641). Here’s an even more striking example from January, [where an engine got torn off.](https://thepointsguy.com/2018/01/pegasus-plane-crash-in-turkey/) Still no fire.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/36 "2018-07-11T21:05:44Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Because the little plastic model they used would have melted.
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> Really, lots of planes crash and don’t burst into flames. Here’s one from[just this week](https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/11-people-rescued-after-plane-crashes-in-alaska-1274160707641). Here’s an even more striking example from January, [where an engine got torn off.](https://thepointsguy.com/2018/01/pegasus-plane-crash-in-turkey/) Still no fire.

Neither of those was a DC-4 hitting the ground hard.

I don’t see what the big deal was. There have been GSL (Glide Slope Landing) systems in service that allow you to land in fog since at least the Berlin Airlift (1946). Was Canada really so far behind the times they didn’t have one in Calgary or Edmonton in 1957? 😕

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/37 "2018-07-11T21:08:33Z")

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> [@Marine\_One](#):
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> Well, I guess we all learned never eat Canadian halibut without knowing whom prepared it!

Who, not whom.

And any halibut, for that matter! Yeccch! ☹

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/38 "2018-07-11T21:19:47Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Because the fuel tanks didn’t get ruptured.
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> Whether or not that would happen in real life depends. But it isn’t a given.

Hey, I watch _ **Mayday!** _ Fuel tanks almost always rupture. ☹

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**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/39 "2018-07-13T22:35:15Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> “Rio”? by Duran Duran.
> 
> Shit, wait…that’s a completely different meme altogether.

> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> “That’s a completely different meme.”

> [@terentii](#):
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> That’s a different meme _altogether_!

Can you face some unpleasant facts?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surely-dont-miss-zero-hour-1957-today-on-tcm-at-2-45-et/817711/40 "2018-07-13T22:37:26Z")

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> [@eunoia](#):
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> Can you face some unpleasant facts?

No.

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