# "Surprise" sex scenes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 2, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123 "2006-05-02T17:16:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![2MuchTrivia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e9bcb4/32.png) [@2MuchTrivia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2MuchTrivia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/81 "2006-05-25T05:55:33Z")

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> Ah, c’mon, you call that graphic? A little titty show and ride 'em cowgirl, if memory serves…

Actually there is/are a few shots of Christian Slater’s “junk”.

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**Author:** ![Jebus\_H.Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jebus\_H.Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebus_H.Christ)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/82 "2006-05-25T06:05:09Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Well, this might not exactly apply since the scene is so quick, but the first thing I thought of is the dude in the dog mask blowing the other dude in **The Shining**. Not sure if the rents would even catch what’s going on there.

I have scene movie like 10 times. When does this happen?

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/83 "2006-05-25T13:08:33Z")

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> [@Jebus H. Christ](#):
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> I have scene movie like 10 times. When does this happen?

Well, as many times as I’ve seen it, I honestly can’t pinpoint the timeline. I think it’s after Wendy realizes Jack is insane, it might even be when he’s locked in the pantry. Anyway, she’s skulking around the hotel and starts seeing the ghosts of the past, in the ballroom and whatnot, and as she’s walking down one of the halls we get a glimpse into a bedroom where we see a man sitting on a bed with another man kneeling in front of him who suddenly looks in Wendy’s direction and he has a dog mask on. It’s totally random and out of context (in the movie, that is; the book explains it) and even if you do catch it, if you haven’t read the book there is no way to understand wha the hell you just saw. If someone would care to correct me , feel free.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/84 "2006-05-25T13:17:08Z")

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> [@2MuchTrivia](#):
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> Not a sex scene, just surprise nudity on _ER_. Young girl and her grandmother enter the hospital. Grandmother has a heart attack or stroke. They tear her shirt and bra open to defibrilate, the whole time the little girl is saying something to the effect of “stop it she doesn’t like that (being exposed)”. In re-runs this scene is cropped or pix’ed so you don’t see the grandmothers chest.
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> _The Brown Bunny_  
> _Devil In the Flesh_  
> For fellatio. I thought they were unrated for “Art” reasons.

No, they were unrated simply because the filmmakers never submitted the movies to the MPAA, knowing that they weren’t going to make an “R” with onscreen fellatio. Getting a movie rated costs money, and the only incentive for doing so is getting it played in mainstream theaters. Since they were at least going to get an NC-17, and the type of theaters that would play NC-17’s would also play unrateds, they took the most economically sound choice. Nothing pretentious about it.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/85 "2006-05-25T13:21:54Z")

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> [@pizzabrat](#):
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> > [@2MuchTrivia](#):
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> > The Brown Bunny  
> > Devil In the Flesh  
> > For fellatio. I thought they were unrated for “Art” reasons.
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> No, they were unrated simply because the filmmakers never submitted the movies to the MPAA, knowing that they weren’t going to make an “R” with onscreen fellatio. Getting a movie rated costs money, and the only incentive for doing so is getting it played in mainstream theaters. Since they were at least going to get an NC-17, and the type of theaters that would play NC-17’s would also play unrateds, they took the most economically sound choice. Nothing pretentious about it.

Oh, I get it, you’re saying you went into those thinking the filmmakers eschewed the MPAA rating process for artistic street-cred, not because they had actual content in them that would make getting a rating pointless. Nevermind, then.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/86 "2006-05-25T13:52:21Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Well, as many times as I’ve seen it, I honestly can’t pinpoint the timeline. [snip] It’s totally random and out of context (in the movie, that is; the book explains it) and even if you do catch it, if you haven’t read the book there is no way to understand wha the hell you just saw. If someone would care to correct me , feel free.

I’m not exactly sure when the scene occurs, but I wouldn’t call it out of context. Kubrick definitely had a minotaur myth thing going on between that (part animal, part man) and the labytinth. You can read a bit about it [here](http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/shining/shining.html) though there’s no link to the Foucault essay “Such a Cruel Knowledge” online.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/87 "2006-05-25T15:20:10Z")

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Diane Keaton in **Something’s Gotta Give**.

Total surprise full-frontal from a woman well past middle age…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-sex-scenes/355123/88 "2006-05-25T15:39:24Z")

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> [@Cat Fight](#):
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> I’m not exactly sure when the scene occurs, but I wouldn’t call it out of context. Kubrick definitely had a minotaur myth thing going on between that (part animal, part man) and the labytinth. You can read a bit about it [here](http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/faq/html/shining/shining.html) though there’s no link to the Foucault essay “Such a Cruel Knowledge” online.

Hmmmmm. I can see the connection with the hedge maze, cause it’s ya know, a maze, but I’d always thought that Kubrick threw the dogman scene in as a little freaky nod-to-the book tidbit. Even if it is some tie-in with the minotaur thing, I don’t see how anyone would pick up on it, since most people can’t even discern what they’re seeing. Interesting link, though. Thanks, **Cat Fight**.

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