# Surprise! The South's reputation hijacked by its own people...again! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 7, 2001, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924 "2001-11-07T02:17:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/81 "2001-11-08T18:13:58Z")
I’d say that the NAACP was stretching a bit far. The measures taken to date (if accurately reported), and assuming there’s no white-wash, the actions to be taken after the invesigation are complete, should be enough. If the NAACP is _really_ interested in seeing justice done, and not just posturing politically, then they’d demand to be part of the review/investigation team _without prejudging guilt_, not standing on the side lines, slinging accusations. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/82 "2001-11-08T18:19:47Z")
While I agree with expelling the students directly involved, I’d be hesitant to condone the blanket action agains “everyone at the party.” Probation seems a good idea, too. I’d be willing to bet that the their Nationals steps in, though. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled their Charter (for a few years, anyway.) I’ve seen that happen for drug use (excessive use and dealing from the house, caught on tape) so I really wouldn’t be surprised to hear they lose their House. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/83 "2001-11-08T20:05:25Z")
**thinksnow** wrote: > [@](#): > > What I have been saying is pretty well covered throughout the last page and, it was my understanding, a general consensus had been reached among the rational-minded involved. I think every word of this statement is true. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/84 "2001-11-09T00:16:55Z")
Gosh, **spoke-** , you got me. I guess I should have thought twice before attempting to match wits with a [Professional antagonist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=3487). You really are so much better at this than I. I should utterly concede this match to you, o’master of…uh, antagonism. I _do_ hope that my activity here didn’t keep you from [more important](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=97850) matters. ---
**Author:** ![panzermanpanzerman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9bcb4/32.png) [@panzermanpanzerman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panzermanpanzerman)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/85 "2001-11-09T06:41:25Z")
\<\\> Well, gee…kinda hard to commit treason vs. a foreign country, isn’t it? And if a resident of, say, Georgia, remained loyal to the Union, in 1861, then why wouldn’t THAT be treasonous? Is it your position, then, that racism, slavery, and oppression did not occur in the North? I do try to make things as simple as possible. I don’t appreciate people who try to make them simpler, though. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/86 "2001-11-09T06:49:13Z")
MGibson wrote: > [@](#): > > When the Jonesboro shooting happened some of the media talk heads brought up what they called “Southern Gun Culture” as being a factor. I never heard them talking about the New York Gun Culture, the Washington D.C. Gun Culture, or the Los Angeles Gun Culture. Maybe that’s because those three areas all have pretty strict anti-gun laws in place. Oh, wait – this is the BBQ Pit, isn’t it? I thought this was Great Debates for a moment. Lemme fix that: (_ahem_) Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckety fuck! ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2001, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924/87 "2001-11-09T17:26:10Z")
Los Angeles has strict anti-gun laws, _and_ a huge gun culture. I spent plenty o’ time on the ranges there, and bought my first “Pin Gun” there. Look at LA’s homicides, and tell me that there are no guns in LA. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprise-the-souths-reputation-hijacked-by-its-own-people-again/91924.md?page=4)