# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/181 "2024-11-15T03:17:22Z")
The media for the last year: GEE THE PRICE OF FOOD SURE HAS GONE UP, LOOK HOW EXPENSIVE FOOD IS, IT MUST BE THE PRESIDENT’S FAULT AND YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE WHO’LL MAKE GROCERIES CHEAP The media now: whoops turns out the president doesn’t set the price of food. how bout that fellas > **[High grocery prices got droves of Americans to vote for Trump but they...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/14/economy/trump-grocery-prices-inflation/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2024-11-14T19%3A44%3A31)** > > Americans are shelling out 22% more for groceries compared to when President Joe Biden took office in January 2021, according to October Consumer Price Index inflation data. While wages finally began to outpace the rate at which food prices were... ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/182 "2024-11-15T04:13:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the **male** inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such **male** citizens shall bear to the whole number of **male** citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. No biggie – just pass a law making females ineligible to vote for electors. Problem solved! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/183 "2024-11-15T04:16:55Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > No biggie – just pass a law making females ineligible to vote for electors. Joking aside, the 19th amendment makes the “male” part of the text obsolete, just as the 26th adjusts the “21 years of age” part. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/184 "2024-11-15T04:17:52Z")
Aw, there ya go, spoilin’ all my fun. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/185 "2024-11-15T04:18:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The media now: whoops turns out the president doesn’t set the price of food. how bout that fellas Since when was CNN paywalled? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/186 "2024-11-15T04:21:36Z")
A few weeks ago. They’re trying to get people to pay. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/187 "2024-11-15T04:24:31Z")
Oh, well. I don’t get to read it. I assume it says something along the lines of ‘Americans voted for Trump so that he’d lower grocery prices, but his tariffs are going to increase them’ or something like that. Would’ve been nice to read, though. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/188 "2024-11-15T04:31:38Z")
Yeh, CNN still lets you read a few things for free but slams you to sign up for everything else. I used to use that as my first online stop for news but to hell with them. I’m better off just dropping in here to supplement the WashPost and Boston Globe. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/189 "2024-11-15T04:32:59Z")
There’s a thread somewhere about which news sources are still available without paywalls. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/190 "2024-11-15T04:34:04Z")
Eh, well, at this point I’m avoiding as much news as possible. ETA: Actually, yesterday I stumbled across NewsNation, a cable channel that some research indicated was rated as “Center”. The segment I saw was an anchor and commentator gobsmacked by the Gaetz nomination. Still making up my mind whether they’re worth watching. Some concerning items on their website. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/191 "2024-11-15T04:50:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > > They’d have no problem coming up with an “emergency”, > > You can scream “emergency” until the cows come home but it still doesn’t nullify the Constitution or stop states from holding elections. Remind me; which is the Party of “_But what if we didn’t_?” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/192 "2024-11-15T04:52:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > which is the Party of “_But what if we didn’t_?” “What if we didn’t” do what, exactly? The federal government has very little to do with the process of actually holding elections. It’s the states that schedule everything, print the ballots, set up polling places, count and certify results, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/193 "2024-11-15T05:02:15Z")
Currently, yes. Republicans create laws that violate the constitution constantly. Then someone has to get the judicial system to stop them. If the states decide to violate the 22nd amendment, how long will it take to stop that? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/194 "2024-11-15T05:12:11Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > If the states decide to violate the 22nd amendment, What does that even mean? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/195 "2024-11-15T06:53:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “What if we didn’t” do what, exactly? Bother to pay attention to the votes, or let the states vote at all. ---
**Author:** ![Nyvaak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nyvaak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nyvaak)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/196 "2024-11-15T07:21:39Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Not to mention, this term is going to hurt everybody if he does half the crazy shit that he wants to do. People will long for the good old days of the Biden administration. Responding to this (quite a ways back in the thread - sorry.) I’ll quote Little\_Nemo: > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > They’ve probably reached the point where they don’t want to figure it out. Realizing Trump has been conning them would mean having to admit they’ve been fools all this time and that the people who told them they were fools were right all along They will never long for the Biden administration. It doesn’t matter how bad things turn out under Trump; the hard-core will never admit it’s a problem, or at least that the problem is his fault. It’s like the news stories one sees occasionally about a child who dies due to the parents’ religious opposition to basic medical care. I’ve _never_ seen one in which the guilty parents admit to even a shred of regret over their decisions. They can’t ! If they admitted any error, it would be admitting that their child died for nothing. So they rationalize the outcome and insist that it was . . . I dunno, God’s will or something. Anyway it was meant to be, and they didn’t do anything wrong. Trump and the Magats will mistreat or abuse or starve our country into catastrophe and then insist it’s not a catastrophe at all. Or that it would have been far worse had it not been for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/197 "2024-11-15T07:22:53Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Bother to pay attention to the votes, or let the states vote at all. You’ve become completely divorced from reality. Seek professional help. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/198 "2024-11-15T07:31:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You’ve become completely divorced from reality. Seek professional help. You’re projecting rather hard, you are pretty clearly in complete denial about what authoritarians can actually do. You appear to think the laws and the Constitution are magical artifacts that can compel obedience without human aid. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/199 "2024-11-15T09:29:19Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You’ve become completely divorced from reality. Seek professional help. The **reality** is that we’re now way off the map. Maybe this administration will limit itself to a bit of grifting but hobble its ability to do anything big by its own incompetence. Maybe Project 2025 will come to fruition and the right will control or influence every branch of government for a generation. The truth is likely to be somewhere in the middle of those two. But there’s little reason to assume we can predict where. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/200 "2024-11-15T10:31:09Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The **reality** is that we’re now way off the map. Maybe this administration will limit itself to a bit of grifting but hobble its ability to do anything big by its own incompetence. Maybe Project 2025 will come to fruition and the right will control or influence every branch of government for a generation. > > The truth is likely to be somewhere in the middle of those two. That’s a realistic summation. Der\_Trihs isn’t being realistic. He’s disappeared up his own ass into “All hope is lost, Trump can do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him, the tides themselves obey his command, may as well smother your children in their sleep so they won’t have to suffer in the purges and the death camps and the nuclear war and the post-atomic horror after which all life shall perish and it will be as if mankind never existed” type doomspiraling. And because this is the Pit, I can say that without this counting as a hijack. I’ve gotten sick of his stinking up every single Trump thread with his psychosis, and he’s admitted in other threads that he’s barely been sleeping and has been hyperfixated on the news. He needs intervention by a professional or someone who loves him and cares about him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=11)