# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> She and Murkowski piss me off the most, perhaps.

Murkowski is pretty consistent voting against him. Collins on the other hand only makes a stand when it won’t make a difference.

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> **[Opinion | Why Immigrants Fear Trump Even if They Voted for Him](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/10/opinion/immigrants-buses-trump-fear.html?unlocked_article_code=1.204.k5D1.W20-ZJucTgz0&smid=url-share)**
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> Talking to people around Chicago, I heard the word “resentment” over and over.

(gift link)  
It’s mostly about Mexicans blaming Venezuelans:  
"He also came to think that — just as Mr. Trump says — the new arrivals were driving up crime. This perception is contradicted by statistics indicating that crime has fallen in Chicago. But Mr. Mata heard stories of late-night train robberies, of Venezuelan women who danced with men at the Mexican bars and then stole their money and phones, of street fights erupting in gunfire.”

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2063 "2025-03-10T18:38:03Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> You know, it really isn’t hard to imagine Collins being replaced with a Democrat. You’d think she would know that.

It may be easy to imagine but it has been difficult to accomplish. In 2020 it was assumed Collins would have difficulty holding her seat. She won in the general election by 8.6% so it wasn’t even close. If she runs in 2026 I fully expect it to go the same way.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2064 "2025-03-10T18:48:33Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I honestly don’t think that Trump wants to “watch the world burn” – he has to live here still.

Yes, he literally doesn’t want to _watch_ the world burn because he doesn’t want it to happen before he’s gone. But judging from his environmental “policy” of denying climate change exists, reversing any program or project that can counter climate change even if it has other benefits like saving money or creating jobs, and paving the way for resource extraction on all possible public lands, he _does_ want it to burn when he’s gone.

How is selling off the government’s fleet of electric cars efficient? It isn’t.

What is the purpose of [approving massive growth in offshore oil drilling](https://news.oilandgaswatch.org/post/critics-call-trumps-proposal-to-expand-offshore-drilling-unnecessary-and-unpopular-in-key-republican-states) that adjoining red states don’t want (tourism\>oil jobs) and even the [oil companies don’t really want](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/business/energy-environment/oil-trump-drill-baby-drill.html?unlocked_article_code=1.204.RUdz.NQ8BwDnQGRoc&smid=url-share)? 🙄

Trump’s moves to:  
\*decimate employment in the National Parks and other public lands,  
\*[massively open up logging on public lands](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/trump-national-forest-executive-order),  
\*[broadly use a rarely-considered and never-used power to override the Endangered Species Act in dire national emergencies only](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/feb/13/endangered-extinction-us-nature-protections-survive-trump-god-squad-aoe), or just plain  
\*[sell off public lands](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-quietly-plans-to-liquidate-public-lands-to-finance-his-sovereign-wealth-fund/) _en masse_ 😱  
prove that this old man and his knowing enablers (Doug Burgum, I’m looking at you) have a _really_ old-school – 19th Century pre-Teddy Roosevelt – belief that only intensive natural resource extraction counts, hundreds of billions of dollars in tourism to see nature is trivial, and the value of preserving species and reserves of nature is absolutely zero. Trump’s “Drill, Baby, Drill!” leads inexorably to “Burn, Baby, Burn!”

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I know referring to everyone with courtesy titles is the NYT’s house style, but the constant references to “Mr. Trump” really rustle my jimmies, because that’s a level of respect he doesn’t deserve.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2066 "2025-03-10T20:04:03Z")

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I prefer it to using his (undeserved) title. I hope it pisses him off each and every time he sees it.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2067 "2025-03-10T20:31:25Z")

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Calling him “Donald” seems to upset him more than anything else, so if I ever find myself having to talk to him that’s what I’m going with.

Not that the conversation would last long. I was once asked what I would ask him if I could only ask him one question, and the best idea I’ve been able to come up with is “Why don’t you go fuck yourself?”

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wrong quote

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> I prefer it to using his (undeserved) title.

I could envision a world where somebody (or somebodies), tears in their eyes, goes up to him and asks, “Sir, why don’t you go fuck yourself?”

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2070 "2025-03-11T01:22:22Z")

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I’ve somehow taught my self to read it as sarcasm.

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I wonder if Trump concerns himself with the safety and flourishment of his brood…

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So the Trump admin has cancelled a billion dollars in local food purchases for schools and food banks. This can’t be good news for the American farmers and ranchers who helped elect him.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/10/usda-cancels-local-food-purchasing-for-schools-food-banks-00222796](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/10/usda-cancels-local-food-purchasing-for-schools-food-banks-00222796)

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So, how does this work vis-à-vis the actual power dynamic?

Trump (a nonentity himself, but the self-appointed froth on the crest of the swelling ignoratti) demands that the poor parents of underfed school kids pay full value for their meals

Farmers (both factory and family operators) take the hit for lost subsidies. Subsidies that were enacted in the Great Depression to avert food riots that elsewhere drove nations into militarism and disaster

Banks that are the true capital-holders of those farms, (both factory and family operators) and in 2025 certainly _not_ the mom & pop banks they were in the Great Depression, absorbing those losses. And taking that kick in the nuts along with many others without complaint.

It goes a lot higher into the power curve than just the mean satisfaction of “fuck you, hungry poor kids.”

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I was once asked what I would ask him if I could only ask him one question, and the best idea I’ve been able to come up with is “Why don’t you go fuck yourself?”

To use my cousin’s favorite phrase, “_What **is** your major malfunction???_”

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Bloomberg:

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:kem5cevl5sjpizk4s27cbyig/bafkreib63w3uarvbwjau3sxkzopfmbmpuen4swrjm2p5nu4ijjehwoti4q@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:kem5cevl5sjpizk4s27cbyig/bafkreib63w3uarvbwjau3sxkzopfmbmpuen4swrjm2p5nu4ijjehwoti4q@jpeg)

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I know referring to everyone with courtesy titles is the NYT’s house style, but the constant references to “Mr. Trump” really rustle my jimmies, because that’s a level of respect he doesn’t deserve.

It’s far better than referring to him by the traditional term used for a male under the age of twelve. He certainly acts the part, but I’d never use the term for him.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> It’s far better than referring to him by the traditional term used for a male under the age of twelve.

“You little shit”?

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “You little shit”?

😂

The traditional term is _master_.

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twerp? Always in lowercase?

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Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and the rest of the tech bros have all taken a big hit in their value recently. In fact the only one who seems to be successfully surfing the maelstrom is the only one not on Team Nazi, Warren Buffet.

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