# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 105
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2081 "2025-03-11T12:15:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and the rest of the tech bros have all taken a big hit in their value recently. Musk lost $29b a few days ago, leaving him worth only $301b today. That’s like you or I with a house and a car and a savings account with a net worth $200k having to replace our AC/Furnace. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2082 "2025-03-11T12:19:13Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > Banks that are the true capital-holders of those farms, (both factory and family operators) and in 2025 certainly _not_ the mom & pop banks they were in the Great Depression, absorbing those losses. And taking that kick in the nuts along with many others without complaint. _“Farm in trouble? I pay cash. Quick close, no contingencies. 1-800-HEY-BILL!”_ > **[Bill Gates Owns 275,000 Acres Of U.S. Farmland. His Answer To Why He's Buying...](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-owns-275-000-150012766.html)** > > Bill Gates, co-founder of Microsoft, is not just a tech mogul and philanthropist. He's also the largest private owner of farmland in the United States, holding an impressive 275,000 acres across the country. You might be wondering why one of the... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2083 "2025-03-11T13:12:32Z")
Collectively, that’s ~430 square miles or a single square field about 21 miles on a side. e.g. Iowa alone has ~47,000 miles of farmland. So Bill’s holdings amount to about 1% of e.g. Iowa. Or about 0.03% of the 1.4M total square miles of US farmland. So big compared to a suburban tract house lot. Not so big compared to the totality of the investible farmland assets. I’d not be surprised to find he owns larger percentages of other non-obvious assets. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2084 "2025-03-11T15:16:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, and the rest of the tech bros have all taken a big hit in their value recently. In fact the only one who seems to be successfully surfing the maelstrom is the only one not on Team Nazi, Warren Buffet. shouldn’t that tell them something?! ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2085 "2025-03-11T15:17:29Z")
Yeah, it’s a conspiracy against them. It can’t be them. They’re great! /s ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2086 "2025-03-11T15:29:21Z")
As a certain Australian might have said: That’s not a farm, this is a farm. > **[Anna Creek Station](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station)** > > .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct,.mw-parser-output .geo-inline-hidden{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}28°53′35″S 136°10′10″E / 28.89306°S 136.16944°E / -28.89306; 136.16944 > Anna Creek Station is the world's largest working cattle station. It is located in the Australian state of South Australia. > Ann... 5,851,000 acres. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2087 "2025-03-11T15:42:08Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > shouldn’t that tell them something?! Yes, but…that would mean admitting to themselves that screwing over the public is bad for business. It would mean admitting that the _common people_ are the most important contributors to the economy, not them. And it would mean that they willingly chose to associate with somebody who has a lifelong history of screwing over anyone who does that. And their fragile egos won’t accept that. _They_ are superior beings who are the source of all prosperity and innovation, not the 99% of the population who are subhuman parasitic vermin. The only true humans in a world of filth. And they certainly wouldn’t be so stupid as to link their fortunes to somebody with a blatant history of ruining anyone who comes near him - which means that association with Trump can’t possibly be a bad idea. Not for people as special as _them._ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2088 "2025-03-11T15:51:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Calling him “Donald” seems to upset him more than anything else, so if I ever find myself having to talk to him that’s what I’m going with. I’ve heard that what he really hates are any diminutives. He wants to be called Donald. He doesn’t want to be called Don and he really hates being called Donny. He’s said that Donny is a child’s name and it’s insulting to call an adult by that name. And here’s something that says a lot about Trump. He named his first son Donald Trump Junior. And he calls him Donny. Put aside the way Trump treats the world and America and his own supporters. This is how Trump treats his own children. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2089 "2025-03-11T15:53:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Put aside the way Trump treats the world and America and his own supporters. This is how Trump treats his own children. Vance too - every time he referenced his kids during the campaign, it was to complain about them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2090 "2025-03-11T16:01:19Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Musk lost $29b a few days ago, leaving him worth only $301b today. That’s like you or I with a house and a car and a savings account with a net worth $200k having to replace our AC/Furnace. Losing ten percent of your wealth in a period of less than two months is a problem no matter how you wave it away. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2091 "2025-03-11T16:05:16Z")
Different problem, though. If he ‘only’ had 10% of his wealth remaining, he’d still be wealthier than the vast majority of people on Earth and could enjoy a lifestyle beyond the imagination of the same. If any of us only had 10% of our current wealth remaining, we’d have to seriously ponder questions about where we would live and how we would eat, if not now, then in the foreseeable future. Maybe some of us would be ok in the short term, but it would be a serious hit to most lifestyles. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2092 "2025-03-11T16:09:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Losing ten percent of your wealth in a period of less than two months is a problem no matter how you wave it away. With _only_ $301,000,000,000, what problems would you expect musk to have that he could avoid with an extra $30b? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2093 "2025-03-11T16:20:17Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > With _only_ $301,000,000,000, what problems would you expect musk to have that he could avoid with an extra $30b? At the current rate, I expect Musk will experience some serious problems around October 2026. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2094 "2025-03-11T16:22:22Z")
They probably aren’t actually that worried about it, since everyone currently assumes the market will come back eventually. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2095 "2025-03-11T16:44:20Z")
_“If Bill Gates woke up tomorrow with Oprah’s money, he’d jump out of a window and slit his throat on the way down saying, ‘I can’t even put gas in my plane!’”_ –Chris Rock ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2096 "2025-03-11T17:32:12Z")
As to the Zuckerburgs, et al … I suspect their individual calculus is simple: They were each told by trump something amounting to: Give me any shit, any shit at all, and I will have the FBI & IRS seize your assets and hound you for the rest of your lives. So stand there and smile, because you all now work for me. Be nice and helpful whenever & however I tell you to and I’ll let you keep your cushy lives. Plus / minus a little stock market turbulence along the way. Act up and you’re out. All the way out. Which is also what he said to each of the big media owners. He probably didn’t deliver the message personally. Mafiosi don’t do that. But his minions did. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2097 "2025-03-11T18:27:41Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Losing ten percent of your wealth in a period of less than two months is a problem no matter how you wave it away. It’s a problem for their egos. It isn’t a problem for them, because this wealth is based upon stock market valuation. All of them are aware that if they tried to cash it out in say 2 months, its value would decline precipitously. After a certain point wealth becomes an accounting metric. It _does_ reflect their poor judgment in supporting Trump or not pushing back on him significantly. It _does_ suggest that their opposition to wholly understandable and go-slow Democratic regulation is wildly disproportionate to the threat. They do well under Democrats. Bad Republican policy damages their business. These spoiled plutocrats would have a situation on their hands if they had to choose between actual socialists and Trumpists. But even then, it would be wise to oppose fascism. Actual communists would be another matter, from their perspective. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2098 "2025-03-11T18:41:49Z")
Came across this fun song, right on point for this thread. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8QGy9D_c1pY/maxresdefault.jpg "The Ultimate "Leopards Ate My Face" Rendition!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QGy9D_c1pY) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2099 "2025-03-11T21:01:07Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > It’s a problem for their egos. It isn’t a problem for them, because this wealth is based upon stock market valuation. All of them are aware that if they tried to cash it out in say 2 months, its value would decline precipitously. After a certain point wealth becomes an accounting metric. I feel it is an issue for Musk (and to some extant for Trump). They have built up their “brand” based on their personal reputation. Musk isn’t just selling cars or internet access or spaceships; he’s selling the idea that he’s a financial genius and people should buy shares in the companies he runs. So screwing up the economy and being revealed as a financial idiot is going to hurt his ability to sell products. The same is true for Trump but in his case it’s more of a past issue. Trump was never a financial genius but his days of needing to pretend to be one are over. Now he’s making money by pretending to understand politics. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2100 "2025-03-12T01:08:32Z")
> [@JacobSwan](#): > > That’s not a farm, this is a farm Technically, that is, using American English, that is _not_ a “farm”, it is a “ranch”. Farms are where you put hard things into the ground and they become growy things. Ranches are where you have wandery things going around nibbling on the sparse native growy things. Ranchland is significantly different from farmland – the US has a shitload more ranchland than farmland. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=104) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=106)