# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 115
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2281 "2025-03-19T19:28:09Z")
I said this when I posted: > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I don’t know if this is real. I couldn’t find ‘Wendy- MAGA Lady’ on Xitter. Elsewhere, @Coldfire says it’s fake. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2282 "2025-03-19T23:30:54Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > This was my favorite part: > > > As a retired veteran, Biggs received a monthly pension that provided a large part of his income. He also received health care through the Veteran’s Affairs agency to treat Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and a traumatic brain injury he suffered while deployed to Iraq, for which he received a Purple Heart. > > > > All of that was cut off as a result of his conviction. > > I can’t wrap my head around how much Trump has fucked this guy over, just absolutely wrecked his life, and he still stands behind the Tangerine Turd 100%. > > It does make me smile inside to know this fucking terrorist lost all of his military benefits as a result of his actions on January 6. Unfortunately, he’ll probably be able to get those benefits restored. > **[VA.gov | Veterans Affairs](https://www.benefits.va.gov/persona/veteran-incarcerated.asp)** > > Apply for and manage the VA benefits and services you’ve earned as a Veteran, Servicemember, or family member—like health care, disability, education, and more. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2283 "2025-03-19T23:58:59Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Unfortunately, he’ll probably be able to get those benefits restored. From a gutted government? Unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2284 "2025-03-20T00:11:39Z")
Good point. It remains to be seen to what extent processing delays will affect VA claims, but I’m not optimistic (or, in this case, I suppose I _am_ optimistic). ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2285 "2025-03-20T00:14:18Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Nah, they’ll just blame the Dems. “You may have noticed a disruption in your Social Security payments. Trump is working hard to reform and fix the system and replace it with something better, but those evil Democrats are sabotaging and disrupting his efforts. It’s their fault you’re not getting paid.” Cue stochastic terrorism. Elmo really wants to gut Social Security and is attempting to blame Democrats for non-existent fraud in the system somehow perpetrated by illegal immigrants: > **[Musk uses immigration and claims of voter fraud to sell Social Security...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-uses-immigration-claims-voter-104541766.html)** > > Elon Musk has falsely claimed that undocumented immigrants are siphoning away billions of dollars' worth of entitlements as part of a Democratic scheme for votes. > Musk has cast the idea as one that’s primarily about immigration, falsely claiming that undocumented immigrants are fraudulently accessing hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of entitlements, including Social Security, Medicaid and disability programs, as part of a Democratic scheme for votes. > “By using entitlements fraud, the Democrats have been able to attract and retain vast numbers of illegal immigrants,” Musk, the billionaire tech CEO behind the Department of Government Efficiency, [said Monday](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/elon-musk-1-on-1-exclusive-at-the-white-house-doge-ai/id1495601614?i=1000699466298) on Sen. Ted Cruz’s podcast, without evidence. “And buy voters. Basically bring in 10, 20 million people who are beholden to the Democrats for government handouts and will vote overwhelmingly Democrat, as has been demonstrated in California.” It’s insane, but of course nothing is too insane for MAGAts to believe. He’s also playing with fire here. Except of course he won’t be the one who gets burned. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2286 "2025-03-20T00:17:07Z")
The darkly amusing thing is that it’s the exact opposite; Social Security has for decades been dependent on collecting huge amounts of money from undocumented immigrants who will never collect benefits. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2287 "2025-03-20T00:21:03Z")
From the above link, > In 2022, immigrants working in the United States without legal authorization paid $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes and $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, according to a recent analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2288 "2025-03-20T07:18:04Z")
The off-topic rambling about the electoral college went on for far too long. Some of you deserve a stern lecture, especially the mods. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2289 "2025-03-20T07:56:32Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > You will see supporters leaving who were _themselves_ affected by Trump’s policies. You may see a few on the edges going “Wait a minute - they’re breaking the law!”, but I fear those will be few and far between. What I’m hearing and seeing is his supporters admitting he’s breaking the law but saying he has to because “whatever it takes” and they cheer him on for that. > [@Procrustus](#): > > Roberts must know that the current Congress just might go along with the madness. Sucks to be him right now. He can push back or cave. I hope he does the right thing. And if _Roberts_ gets impeached? > [@madmonk28](#): > > > [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > > > ( That said, I bet thousands of women were jealous. /s ) > > I got to thinking about her and looked her up. She’s living in Mexico with her husband and kids. She managed to deport herself. That’s how stupid these people are. And she was able to do that because Mexico’s government isn’t riding rough-shod over its constitution and laws, nor blaming everything on immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2290 "2025-03-20T08:40:02Z")
[operator error] ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2291 "2025-03-20T08:42:45Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > It does make me smile inside to know this fucking terrorist lost all of his military benefits as a result of his actions on January 6. The guy is quite clearly delusional. From the article: > Biggs, who describes himself on _X_ as a “Right Wing Extremist and Proud **Terrorist** to the left,” Also from the article: > And meanwhile, I … get treated like a **terrorist** the entire time,” My emphasis. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2292 "2025-03-20T08:47:36Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > My emphasis. He can’t be a terrorist, he’s white. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2293 "2025-03-20T08:48:44Z")
Well, he says he is. And he should know. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2294 "2025-03-20T09:35:18Z")
( I said that as a continuation of the bad joke meme of wives scheming to be rid of their husbands. Lucy and Ethel plotting to be rid of Ricky and Fred type stuff. It wasn’t a real point; I typed the “/s”. But carry on. ) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2295 "2025-03-20T10:54:52Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > said that as a continuation of the bad joke meme of wives scheming to be rid of their husbands Yeah, I know. I just thought it was interesting that she voted for Trump in 2016, got her husband deported and ended up going with him. It seemed like an opportune time to report my findings, ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2296 "2025-03-20T11:18:40Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > Nah, they’ll just blame the Dems. “You may have noticed a disruption in your Social Security payments. Trump is working hard to reform and fix the system and replace it with something better, but those evil Democrats are sabotaging and disrupting his efforts. It’s their fault you’re not getting paid.” Cue stochastic terrorism. > > Elmo really wants to gut Social Security and is attempting to blame Democrats for non-existent fraud in the system somehow perpetrated by illegal immigrants: Right, that’s step one to justify tearing everything down. My comment above is about step two, when the interrupted payments fail to resume. They’ll point the finger at the Dems for “obstructing” Trump’s plans, “refusing to cooperate” with the “reform” effort, and that’s why nobody’s getting their SS checks. It’ll be transparent horseshit but the base will eat it up. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2297 "2025-03-20T11:44:01Z")
My mother’s definition of “protecting Social Security and Medicare” has gone from making sure benefits don’t get cut for their and future generations to making sure that undeserving people don’t bankrupt the system through fraud. This change hasn’t happened in ten years, but in ten days. This is the power of the propaganda machine in the cult. My mother probably has no recollection of migrants eating cats and dogs that she was frothing over five months ago. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2298 "2025-03-20T13:33:41Z")
If social security benefits for undocumented immigrants are so great, why would they need to eat cats in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2299 "2025-03-20T13:40:36Z")
Because the local stores in that small town ran out of caviar. Everyone knows welfare and food stamp (SNAP) cheats subsist mostly on caviar. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2300 "2025-03-20T13:43:57Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > would they need to eat cats in the first place? They don’t _need_ to eat cats, they _want_ to eat cats, because of the evil. Or they’re ALF, I forget which. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lrHA09Z4L6Q/maxresdefault.jpg "ALF Makes a 🐈 🥪") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrHA09Z4L6Q) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=114) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=116)