# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 119
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2361 "2025-03-23T03:46:33Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Parents of unvaxxed child who died of measles say that measles not as bad as media says. Their kid being dead isn’t that bad, leopards rejoice. The article says they’re Mennonites, and seeing as they needed a translator they’re probably German-speakers, so probably especially devout ones at that. I don’t think this is Trump Crazy so much as just good old-fashioned all-American Religious Crazy. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2362 "2025-03-23T04:08:24Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > [She hoped Trump would revive her farm. Now she worries his policies could bankrupt it.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/economics/hoped-trump-revive-farm-now-worries-policies-bankrupt-rcna197320) > [@](#): > > “The American worker doesn’t like labor, they don’t like to do laborious jobs,” Carlson said. “They don’t want to do the hard labor, and that’s what’s frustrating, because we would love to hire U.S. workers, but we can’t get them to show up. We can’t get them to follow through. We can’t get them to finish the season.” So she votes for the guy who says that illegals are taking all the jobs away from the hard-working Americans who want them. But no American she knows wants to do the work. That tracks. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2363 "2025-03-23T04:17:47Z")
This needs something, > “The American worker doesn’t like labor _for what we pay_, they don’t like to do laborious jobs _for what we pay_,” Carlson said. “They don’t want to do the hard labor _for what we pay_, and that’s what’s frustrating, because we would love to hire U.S. workers _for what we pay_, but we can’t get them to show up _for what we pay_. We can’t get them to follow through _for what we pay_. We can’t get them to finish the season _for what we pay_.” There, that’s more accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2364 "2025-03-23T05:17:38Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > I think the hope was they would get deported just after they did the work, but before they got paid. That’s the conservative dream there. Also a pretty common thing in practice, I understand. Get undocumented immigrants to do the work, then call in ICE and have them deported to avoid paying them. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2365 "2025-03-23T07:08:07Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Cherry-farming Trump voter in northern Michigan may lose her family farm because the Trump team cancelled her USDA grant. > > “I was expecting to see a drastic turnaround for the better for my farm because the Republicans have always been for the American farmer." > > IOW, “How could they do this to meeeeee?” So… she listened to everything that Trump had to say, and then cherry-picked what she wanted to hear, right..? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2366 "2025-03-23T11:01:41Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > we would love to hire U.S. workers, but we can’t get them to show up. So we voted for the guy who hates the workers we _can_ get to show up and make our business viable. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2367 "2025-03-23T12:12:48Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > “I was expecting to see a drastic turnaround for the better for my farm because the Republicans have always been for the American farmer." Where was she during the last Trump administration? But she got her “drastic turnaround”. Just not in the direction she’d hoped. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2368 "2025-03-23T15:00:24Z")
I’ve seen some bullshit commentary that the child didn’t “technically die of measles” because ultimately it was pneumonia that killed her “and there’s no vaccine for pneumonia”. Pneumonia is a common secondary infection with measles _and these morons wouldn’t have vaxxed for pneumonia anyways_. The stupid is so damn painful. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2369 "2025-03-23T15:13:12Z")
That’s up there with “well, I may have pushed him off the roof, but it was the ground that killed him” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2370 "2025-03-23T15:58:48Z")
Even the death of their child isn’t enough to change their mind. Nothing will. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2371 "2025-03-23T16:45:07Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I didn’t expect to find it, but in 2018 there were fewer than 300 people employed as chemists in Idaho I’m skeptical of their methodology (I don’t think they’d count me), but whatever the undercounting, and despite the output of graduates coming out of Moscow and Pullman, I think your point stands. Maybe a touch less so now given the post-‘rona population growth. The cluster in Idaho Falls is due to the national lab, which was probably not the kind of chemists your company was looking for. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2372 "2025-03-23T17:09:58Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Even the death of their child isn’t enough to change their mind. Nothing will. Well, “God’s Will” and all that … ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2373 "2025-03-23T18:52:04Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > So she votes for the guy who says that illegals are taking all the jobs away from the hard-working Americans who want them. But no American she knows wants to do the work. That tracks. I’ve done a _very_ little work with seasonal ag workers in Michigan - all hailing from south of the El Paso and of varying immigration status. An astounding workforce/lifestyle, which - if you were not directly involved with them, would likely be entirely invisible to you. But have NO doubt - the owner of a 1200 acre family cherry farm is WELL aware of how critical such workers are to their survival. What a fucking maroon. I want Trump to pay to oust THOSE Guatemalans, but I want him to pay me to hire THESE Guatemalans! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2374 "2025-03-23T18:57:53Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > I’ve seen some bullshit commentary that the child didn’t “technically die of measles” because ultimately it was pneumonia that killed her “and there’s no vaccine for pneumonia”. Not sure if I’m being whooshed here, but there is a vaccine for pneumonia. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2375 "2025-03-23T19:08:56Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > there is a vaccine for pneumonia. There are FOUR vaccines for pneumonia currently in use in the US, given to different ages from child to older adults. I just got the latest one (Prevnar 23) a few weeks ago and I’m 75. I also got several of the earlier ones, at least 13 and 20. > **[Types of Pneumococcal Vaccines](https://www.cdc.gov/pneumococcal/vaccines/types.html)** > > Information on how well pneumococcal vaccines work by vaccine type and bacteria serogroup. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2376 "2025-03-23T19:13:23Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > all hailing from south of the El Paso Presumably the Rio Grande? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2377 "2025-03-23T19:32:24Z")
Or “south of El Paso” without the “the”. IOW, either / or, but not both. We all get his point though. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2378 "2025-03-23T20:02:47Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > So… she listened to everything that Trump had to say, and then cherry-picked what she wanted to hear, right..? Yep. What he has actually done is absolutely the pits! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2379 "2025-03-23T20:11:02Z")
So her life going forward is unlikely to be a bowl of cherries? Awwww. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2380 "2025-03-23T20:11:50Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > What a fucking maroon. I want Trump to pay to oust THOSE Guatemalans, but I want him to pay me to hire THESE Guatemalans! Well sure, Trump was only going to deport the criminal drug dealing rapist Guatamalans, and the lazy ones who are hanging out in ritzy hotel rooms sucking off the government teet. Not the nice hard working ones she hires. Its the same way that all those Trumpist federal employees assumed their jobs would be safe because Musk was only going to fire the lazy ones that hate America. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=118) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=120)