# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/221 "2024-11-15T19:06:50Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > for the favor of King trump III (Baron) Don’t be ridiculous. Barron is either Trump II or he is killed by whichever of the triumvirate (I,E,DJ) win the crown. I assume everyone will continue to ignore Tiffany. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/222 "2024-11-15T20:08:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > When Trump dies it’s going to get messy. 🎼🎶_I’m Dreaming… of a Messy Christmas…_🎵 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/223 "2024-11-15T21:46:29Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I assume everyone will continue to ignore Tiffany. Making the moment they all turn around and see her sitting on the throne and quietly saying “seize them” all the more delightful. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/224 "2024-11-16T00:08:32Z")
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/) > [@](#): > > “Trump won because of us and we’re not happy with his Secretary of State pick and others,” said Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump. Muslim support for Trump helped him win Michigan and may have factored into other swing state wins, strategists believe. Great job, dingus. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/225 "2024-11-16T00:50:30Z")
Well, to be fair, who could have _possibly_ seen that coming??? Oh, right. Can’t see nothing when the Leopards done ate your eye-balls. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/226 "2024-11-16T02:03:10Z")
The stock market is already feeling the hangover. Today big pharma — tomorrow who? Chip makers? Lithium batteries? Temu? (Lord, I hope so). Dumb fucks. Big business thrives on predictability. > **[Stock market today: Wall Street tumbles as the “Trump bump” fades and vaccine...](https://apnews.com/article/stocks-markets-rates-japan-trump-6040f0d5d509906da53dc41219a17e78)** > > U.S. stocks fell to their worst loss since Election Day as the boost that Wall Street got from last week’s victory for Donald Trump and a cut to interest rates by the Federal Reserve kept fading. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/227 "2024-11-16T09:39:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/) > > > [@](#): > > > > “Trump won because of us and we’re not happy with his Secretary of State pick and others,” said Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump. Muslim support for Trump helped him win Michigan and may have factored into other swing state wins, strategists believe. > > Great job, dingus. I was coming here to post that. These are some of the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet if they thought Trump would take an anti-Isralei, pro-Muslem stance on _anything_. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/228 "2024-11-16T12:24:17Z")
Story time: Last night I went to a Mexican restaurant in a sorta middle / working class neighborhood. That’s where the good Mexican food is. Sat at the bar next to some random guy who was evidently a regular. Older dude, gray beard, gray pony tail, baseball cap, gnarly hands, well-worn t-shirt & shorts. We’re yakking; he’s a very personable sort, age 70, married 50 years, has 5 cats, 2 dogs, generally a sunny friendly personality. Worked construction then home handyman before retiring. Salt of the earth and generous with friends. The kind of guy you’d like to have as a next door neighbor. Two drinks and one dinner later we’re still yakking happily as somebody else walks in and sits on the other side of this guy. Evidently another regular & friend of his. Also retired, more clean-cut, looks like he probably wore a tie most of his working life. His accent is pure NJ-came-to-FL-15-years-ago. We have a lot of that around here. Again a pleasant and friendly sort as the conversation smoothly grows to include him too. A few minutes in NJ says to pony-tail: “How 'bout that election?” Pony-tail bumps fists with NJ and says “Yeah, we saved the country.” “We sure did.” says NJ. I say nothing. The conversation moves on to other matters, then eventually it’s time to pay and go. They both are going to be very surprised at what they have wrought. All I could think of was a quote I don’t recall the source of about “the sheer banality of evil.” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/229 "2024-11-16T14:25:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump won because of us I think Chowdhury struggles a bit with cause and effect, or with the way the electoral system works. Not too surprising to find out he’s a complete and total idiot, of course - that tracks. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/230 "2024-11-16T16:35:07Z")
This is the point where I emulate Rorschach: **All the Muslims and the women who voted for tRump will look up and shout “Save us!” And I’ll look down and whisper, “No.”** ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/231 "2024-11-16T17:27:58Z")
From @Smapti 's Reuters article: > Rola Makki, the Lebanese American, Muslim vice chair for outreach of the Michigan Republican Party, agreed. > “I don’t think everyone’s going to be happy with every appointment Trump makes, but the outcome is what matters,” she said. > “I do know that Trump wants peace, and what people need to realize is that there’s 50,000 dead Palestinians and 3,000 dead Lebanese, and that’s happened during the current administration.” So, what do you expect ANY admin to do when countries attack each other? Drop gruel on them? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/232 "2024-11-16T17:37:52Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My guess is never. They had four years of Trump in office and then four years of Trump out of office. If they didn’t figure out they were being conned in all that time, they never will. Any bad things that happen will be spun so that the finger of blame points at liberals, or immigrants, or Europe, or some other thing. Literally the leopard eating your face at the same time as telling you someone else is doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/233 "2024-11-16T17:42:05Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Any bad things that happen will be spun so that the finger of blame points at liberals, or immigrants, or Europe, or some other thing. Literally the leopard eating your face at the same time as telling you someone else is doing it. Well, many of these are the same people who hear about a bunch of school children being shot and announce that the solution is to have more guns around. These are people who have beliefs. And then twist reality around until it conforms to those beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/234 "2024-11-16T17:44:51Z")
From that quote from Rola Makki, Muslim vice chair for outreach of the Michigan Republican Party, “I do know that Trump wants peace, and what people need to realize is that there’s 50,000 dead Palestinians and 3,000 dead Lebanese, and that’s happened during the current administration.” I expect that Joe Biden _also_ wants peace and if there was something he could have done to avoid those thousands of deaths, he certainly would have. Would Trump have done something to resolve the situation better? I really doubt it. He doesn’t really think about other countries except in terms of how they can benefit him. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/235 "2024-11-16T20:13:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > These are people who have beliefs. And then twist reality around until it conforms to those beliefs. Well put. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > “I do know that Trump wants peace, and what people need to realize is that there’s 50,000 dead Palestinians and 3,000 dead Lebanese, and that’s happened during the current administration.” Trump will not give a shit. He will, or course, allow Ukraine to die. 'Cause that’s what his buddy Putin told him to do. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/236 "2024-11-16T20:48:46Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > From that quote from Rola Makki, Muslim vice chair for outreach of the Michigan Republican Party, “I do know that Trump wants peace, and what people need to realize is that there’s 50,000 dead Palestinians and 3,000 dead Lebanese, and that’s happened during the current administration.” I expect that Joe Biden _also_ wants peace and if there was something he could have done to avoid those thousands of deaths, he certainly would have. Would Trump have done something to resolve the situation better? … What Trump is all too likely to do is create “peace” through giving Netanyahu both the green light and the weaponry/funds to eliminate every Palestinian in Gaza (and the West Bank, too). Wipe them out, take any land they have, take any assets they have. Possibly as part of a deal to hand Donald some of that nice sea-front Gaza land for development. That’s what those voters may very well have achieved.\* That’s the kind of “peace” Donald plans for Ukraine, too. Just give Vlad the go-ahead to do what he needs to do to get that land. We all know this, of course. And 76 million Americans thought it was just the best thing ever! . . . . \*Most of the Trump voters who will experience harm via Trump choices will be easily propagandized out of knowing what they did to themselves. For example, when higher inflation hits (due to fewer immigrant workers + tariffs), the FoxNews/Sinclair/etc. “news” industry will sell the idea that prices are up due to Democratic sabotaging of Trump’s brilliant plan—and they’ll be believed. But the Muslim-Americans who voted for Trump (or third party) may be the one group who will see the results of their vote un-distorted by propaganda. Because if Netanyahu does start slaughtering Palestinians without any pretense that it’s a lawful response to 10/7, it will be impossible to blame that on Democrats. (Or at least I can’t see any way to spin it…?) ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/237 "2024-11-16T23:52:34Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > so that the finger of blame points at liberals, or immigrants, or Europe, or some other thing Uppity women will get blamed too. None of us know our place. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/238 "2024-11-17T00:07:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > All I could think of was a quote I don’t recall the source of about “the sheer banality of evil.” Apparently it’s from a book by Hannah Arendt, [_Eichmann in Jerusalem_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem#:~:text=Arendt's%20subtitle%20famously%20introduced%20the,'duty'...%3B). (The link goes to Wikipedia.) > Arendt’s subtitle famously introduced the phrase “the banality of evil.” In part the phrase refers to Eichmann’s deportment at the trial as the man displayed neither guilt for his actions nor hatred for those trying him, claiming he bore no responsibility because he was simply “[doing his job](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Befehl_ist_Befehl).” (“He did his ‘duty’…; he not only obeyed ‘orders,’ he also obeyed the ‘law.’”) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/239 "2024-11-17T00:20:46Z")
I think Arendt must have struggled with the question of how someone so seemingly sociopathic could ever have done something so terrible. I say with a straight face. Because she seems to chalk up the failure of the French Revolution as being an excess of empathy and ensuing emotion, and a lack of the sort of :cringe: “civility” that helped the American Revolution succeed. Or at least that seems to be the thrust of one of her other works, _On Revolution_ (really just a neoliberal hit piece obsessed with the idea that the US’s success can be completely divorced from its ability to ruthlessly exploit people of color—mostly black and indigenous people, at least initially—and large swathes of land and resources gained by conquest within the protection of two pretty damn big oceans). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/240 "2024-11-17T05:31:31Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Trump will not give a shit. He will, or course, allow Ukraine to die. 'Cause that’s what his buddy Putin told him to do. It’s not just Putin. Trump’s boyfriend Kim Jong Un also now has troops fighting against Ukraine. And don’t blame me for the boyfriend comment. It was Trump who said they fell in love. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=13)