# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2561 "2025-04-07T12:44:48Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> When creating a pseudonym, it’s generally a good idea to avoid anything that seems close to an anagram of one’s real name.

Wise words indeed from Alec McHama.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2562 "2025-04-07T13:41:10Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> The level of stupid is petrifying – you’ve heard of pseudoscience? I give you “pseudomath.”

And that video doesn’t even cover everything e.g. what’s been said about VAT. I’m still playing whack-a-mole on linkedIn, trying to explain to people that it’s a sales tax, exactly like state sales taxes, not something exclusively levelled on imports, let alone only on the US.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2563 "2025-04-07T13:53:03Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Once the Trump administration is done, the United States will be weaker both economically and militarily.

The only person who’s benefitting from the Trump presidency is Vladimir Putin.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2564 "2025-04-07T14:09:44Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The only person who’s benefitting from the Trump presidency is Vladimir Putin.

I think China might come out ahead as well. China, Japan, and South Korea are forming some sort of economic bloc against the United States. These people _hate_ each other, so this is a big deal. It’s heartwarming to see Trump bringing people together for a change.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2565 "2025-04-07T14:16:12Z")

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> [@bobsmom101](#):
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> > [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > I just watched this one:
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> If you are tempted to just pass this video by because there is no summary, please spend the couple of minutes it takes to watch it. Especially if you are more proficient in math than the average second grader. The level of stupid is petrifying – you’ve heard of pseudoscience? I give you “pseudomath.”

Also, you should watch Matt Parker’s channel just because he’s awesome.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2566 "2025-04-07T15:07:05Z")

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Seen in a comments section" “I voted for Trump because I wanted a return to normalcy, not these crazy tariffs!”. He was roundly and appropriately mocked.

“I ordered this lutefisk because I wanted a cool, refreshing beverage!”

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2567 "2025-04-07T15:29:37Z")

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I don’t know where exactly to post this, but I am actually more hopeful than I have been in a long time. I knew he was going to destroy the country, but the fact that he is doing it so quickly that his base is maybe noticing is something I didn’t dare hope.

> **[The Good News About Trump’s Tariffs](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/04/trump-tariffs-political-capital/682274/?gift=G6HF8s4IM7cLjZQdCxzpYDr6Gn_A17udDOfKYiHTGVw&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)**
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> Authoritarian leaders are most dangerous when they’re popular. Wrecking the economy is unlikely to broaden Trump’s support.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2568 "2025-04-07T15:32:23Z")

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Not sure if this is the best place for this but seems on-topic:

> **[Transcript: Trump Voters Suddenly Shocked at How Badly He Screwed Them](https://newrepublic.com/article/193661/transcript-trump-voters-suddenly-shocked-badly-screwed)**
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> As farmers start realizing they will be devastated by Trump's tariffs, the author of a book about MAGA country digs into the true nature of his rural support—and how Democrats should try to reverse it.

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**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2569 "2025-04-07T15:45:26Z")

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I hate that he/they are doing some terrible things and I’m almost happy about it because if he goes far enough quickly enough, some group of people might actually stop him. If it had been more gradual, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have happened.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2570 "2025-04-07T16:00:18Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I don’t know where exactly to post this, but I am actually more hopeful than I have been in a long time. I knew he was going to destroy the country, but the fact that he is doing it so quickly that his base is maybe noticing is something I didn’t dare hope.

If there’s a silver lining in Trump destroying the American economy, it’s that it will weaken him politically and make it more difficult for him to do other terrible things.

Yes, Trump’s tariffs have harmed America. But rounding up Mexicans in camps or going to war with Canada or declaring martial law or bungling a major disease outbreak would all do more serious long-lasting harm.

A healthy economy gives a head of state cover to do a lot of bad things. People will look the other way as long as they personally are doing okay. But Trump’s lost that cover.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2571 "2025-04-07T16:03:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> If there’s a silver lining in Trump destroying the American economy, it’s that it will weaken him politically and make it more difficult for him to do other terrible things.

Covid all over again.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2572 "2025-04-07T16:07:00Z")

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What really irks me about the support from farmers is that he fucked them over with tariffs under his first administration _and many of them still kept voting for him_.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2573 "2025-04-07T16:09:04Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> When creating a pseudonym, it’s generally a good idea to avoid anything that seems close to an anagram of one’s real name.
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> Just sayin’

Well, it worked for Tom Riddle, right?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2574 "2025-04-07T16:12:01Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What really irks me about the support from farmers is that he fucked them over with tariffs under his first administration _and many of them still kept voting for him_.

Let’s face it…the farmers/rural folk may pretend otherwise but it is just racism/bigotry that motivates how they vote (painting with a broad brush).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2575 "2025-04-07T16:18:14Z")

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_mumble mumble people of the land mumble mumble_

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2576 "2025-04-07T16:27:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> What really irks me about the support from farmers is that he fucked them over with tariffs under his first administration _and many of them still kept voting for him_.

As I recall, Trump just opened up the welfare taps to replace what they lost.

They probably assumed he’d do that again, though this time it looks like he isn’t planning to shield anyone. Which is itself odd.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2577 "2025-04-07T16:32:52Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> > [@CalMeacham](#):
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> > When creating a pseudonym, it’s generally a good idea to avoid anything that seems close to an anagram of one’s real name.
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> > Just sayin’
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> Well, it worked for Tom Riddle, right?

But Alucard wasn’t even trying.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2578 "2025-04-07T16:34:50Z")

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> [@doreen](#):
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> I hate that he/they are doing some terrible things and I’m almost happy about it because if he goes far enough quickly enough, some group of people might actually stop him. If it had been more gradual, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have happened.

Exactly, we need to get through the collapse quickly and we need his base to realize he is responsible because we need to start building what comes next.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2579 "2025-04-07T16:42:42Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > What really irks me about the support from farmers is that he fucked them over with tariffs under his first administration _and many of them still kept voting for him_.
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> Let’s face it…the farmers/rural folk may pretend otherwise but it is just racism/bigotry that motivates how they vote (painting with a broad brush).

I don’t know. I’ve always felt that racism is a stronger motivational tool in cities.

I grew up in a very rural/farming area. And what racism I saw was always pretty abstract. Because the reality is we didn’t have any other races around on a day-to-day basis. It’s hard for even a hardcore bigot to keep it up when he can go weeks without seeing a black person.

The worst bigots around when I was growing up were the transplants; people who had grown up in a city and then moved to the country in order to get away from “those people”.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2580 "2025-04-07T16:46:04Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But Alucard wasn’t even trying.

I like the way Snrub thinks!

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