# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 131
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2601 "2025-04-07T18:59:32Z")
Right wing media feeds into the racism. You don’t have to ever encounter Blacks/Latinos/immigrants/Arabs/etc. to just _know_ they’re the problem with this country, In fact it’s easier to hate _those people_ if you don’t know any of them. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2602 "2025-04-07T19:01:09Z")
Yeah, when they talk about government handouts and welfare queens, they don’t mean their food stamps and farm subsidies. They mean imagined blacks in the big city. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2603 "2025-04-07T19:08:44Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I didn’t know we were neighbors. Come over for a beer. I live in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Fun fact, my wife and I once volunteered to be human shields because the Klan said it was going to shoot up a place that had a drag show and the sheriff department refused to provide security. When the Post called the sheriff to ask why he wasn’t providing security he decided to send deputies and the human shields weren’t needed. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2604 "2025-04-07T19:09:57Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I live in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Fun fact, my wife and I once volunteered to be human shields because the Klan said it was going to shoot up a place that had a drag show and the sheriff department refused to provide security. Just for that I owe you both a drink if you’re ever here or me there. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2605 "2025-04-07T19:41:22Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Yeah, when they talk about government handouts and welfare queens, they don’t mean their food stamps and farm subsidies. They mean imagined blacks in the big city. I’ve often said that racism is the primary reason we don’t have universal health care in the US. Remember when Rick Santorum said the quiet part outloud, back in the days before that was fashionable…..and made an incredibly lame attempt to walk it back > **[Rick Santorum: Top 7 culture war moments](https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2012/0217/Rick-Santorum-Top-7-culture-war-moments/On-giving-welfare-to-black-people-or-did-he-say-blah-people)** > > As a senator, Rick Santorum was one of the Republican Party's best-known culture warriors. Now, as a surging presidential contender, Mr. Santorum is still leading the charge, and facing questions about some of his old, and not so old, comments. Here... I’ve seen the clip, he definitely said black. Judge for yourself. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UP_xKHmPfrU/maxresdefault.jpg "Flashback: Rick Santorum Won't Help 'Blah People'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP_xKHmPfrU) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2606 "2025-04-07T20:08:33Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I’ve often said that racism is the primary reason we don’t have universal health care in the US. It’s also why DC will never have statehood. It’s perceived as a black city and people jump through elaborate hoops and make crazy proposals rather than just give them senators. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2607 "2025-04-07T21:56:22Z")
[Craig T. Nelson](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2011/07/01/the-craig-t-nelson-problem/) > As the actor argued at the time, he was thinking about no longer paying taxes because he disapproved of public funds rescuing those struggling. > “They’re not going to bail me out,” Nelson said. “I’ve been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No. No.” ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2608 "2025-04-07T22:00:30Z")
Well, yes, that was a dumb thing that Mr. Nelson said in 2011. Sometimes faces are a dish best served cold, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2609 "2025-04-07T22:25:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > While I agree it’s not a direct, explicit reason to support somebody, it does rank on the list of why they showed up to vote at all. Maybe. But that’s not what was originally stated and started this discussion: > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Let’s face it…the farmers/rural folk may pretend otherwise but it is just racism/bigotry that motivates how they vote Non-college-educated folks voted overwhelmingly for Trump last November. Can we also paint them with a broad brush and blame their racism/bigotry for their voting preference? Or is it just farmers and rural folks? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2610 "2025-04-07T22:57:48Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Non-college-educated folks voted overwhelmingly for Trump last November. Can we also paint them with a broad brush and blame their racism/bigotry for their voting preference? Yes? It’s a white supremacist movement; most of its members are racists with a sprinkling of the just straight up cognitively impaired ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2611 "2025-04-07T23:05:05Z")
The three pillars of maga are racism, stupidity and greed. Most Trump voters suffer from more than one them. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2612 "2025-04-07T23:08:06Z")
Some are more stupid than evil, some are more evil than stupid, but all of them are assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2613 "2025-04-07T23:12:12Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Or is it just farmers and rural folks? Not at all. I have a friend who is a Trumper. She is college educated, very smart (I think), an executive with a very good and well paying job and lives in the middle of Chicago. I will say she is a Trumper because of racism. She would deny it and be offended if you said so but it is clear, spending time with her, that it is racism. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2614 "2025-04-07T23:18:57Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > As I recall, Trump just opened up the welfare taps to replace what they lost. > > They probably assumed he’d do that again, though this time it looks like he isn’t planning to shield anyone. Which is itself odd. Trump clearly intends to go full on dictator this time around, and certainly won’t allow a fair election to happen if he can prevent it. So he has no reason to shield anyone since their usefulness is _over;_ they got him into power so they are now completely expendable. Voting away democracy means you are voting away any reason for the government to care about you. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2615 "2025-04-07T23:26:25Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Non-college-educated folks voted overwhelmingly for Trump last November. Can we also paint them with a broad brush and blame their racism/bigotry for their voting preference? Well, yes, that’s kind of the thing - it’s all internalized to the extent they themselves and many people around them don’t even recognize it. I recall a TV piece about 20-25 years ago on a former/current sundown town here in Texas that had a Black family move in (yes, this is major news in some places), and they were interviewing locals. What I vividly recall about it was one person they talked to saying they didn’t mind having them in town and good for them and how they weren’t racist at all. But then said they wouldn’t want to live next to them. There are a lot of people (including many, many, many posters here over the years) that think that unless it involves a lynching, it can’t be racism. Or, if so, not so serious. Those kind of people would never admit race had anything to do with their politics. And they would be offended to hear it suggested. Yet, it would still actually be a significant factor in how they think. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2616 "2025-04-07T23:35:00Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > What really irks me about the support from farmers is that he fucked them over with tariffs under his first administration _and many of them still kept voting for him_. Maybe they’re scientists. [![](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_difference.png) ](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_difference.png) ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2617 "2025-04-08T01:35:38Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > There are a lot of people (including many, many, many posters here over the years) that think that unless it involves a lynching, it can’t be racism. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone that would admit to being racist, even though I’ve heard all kinds of disgusting bigotry over the years. I think there’s two main reasons. Firstly, to a lot of people, “racist” is just a generic pejorative. When such people’s racist comments are called out, they’ll say words to the effect of “No, _you_ are the racist, for calling me racist” 🤔 But secondly there’s also a cognitive blind spot that such people often have. They genuinely don’t seem to understand why, if group X has a slightly higher proportion of criminals than group Y, we cannot simply call people who belong to X criminals, and treat them as such. It’s kind of interesting, but also too unpleasant to want to study further. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2618 "2025-04-08T01:42:53Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone that would admit to being racist, even though I’ve heard all kinds of disgusting bigotry over the years. It’s the ‘I’m not a racist/bigot I just hate _group_’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2619 "2025-04-08T01:53:58Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > They genuinely don’t seem to understand why, if group X has a slightly higher proportion of criminals than group Y, we cannot simply call people who belong to X criminals, and treat them as such. And yet when the group is “men” they figure out the issue with lightning speed ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2620 "2025-04-08T03:59:45Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I moved here from DC. Honestly, I think the people who grew up around it just don’t notice it. Racism is just background noise. In my case, I don’t feel it’s just an issue of not noticing it. I grew up in a very rural community. But as an adult, I’ve lived in cities and suburbs (and often travelled back to the rural community I grew up in). I remember being surprised at how many openly racist remarks I began hearing once I moved. (Not directed at me; I’m a white guy.) I’d estimate that the ratio of racist remarks I’d hear in suburban or urban areas (where white people live alongside black people) is at least twenty to one compared to the amount I’d hear in rural areas (where there aren’t any noticeable number of black people). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=130) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=132)