# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 143
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2841 "2025-04-15T00:25:28Z")
Muslims believe that nobody killed Jesus; he didn’t get killed at all. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2842 "2025-04-15T01:10:08Z")
Thiugh they do believe that people attempted to kill him ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2843 "2025-04-15T02:57:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I am afraid of what will happen once the “Christians” become just a touch more cynical than they already are, declare that one of their own “in” groups are the actual Jews (like maybe Jews For Jesus) and write off the actual Jews as disposable. There are a number of current Christian sects that claim they are _The True Jews_ and the ‘’‘fake Jews’‘’ are actually Satan worshipers, the, Biblical, Synagogue of Satan. [Hell, the Mormons, literally, think they are Jews.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism#Latter-Day_Saint_movement's_views_on_Jews) > Most LDS members believe that Jews are God’s chosen people and they also believe that LDS Church members and Jews share a common and literal Israelite ancestry, an ancestry which was associated with an affinity for Jews. However, most LDS members also believe that God is perpetually punishing Jews for their part in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and they will not be forgiven until they are converted. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2844 "2025-04-15T03:18:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I am afraid of what will happen once the “Christians” become just a touch more cynical than they already are, declare that one of their own “in” groups are the actual Jews (like maybe Jews For Jesus) and write off the actual Jews as disposable. There was a dude named Herbert W Armstrong who asserted that modern Jews were all from 2 tribes that split off and the rest of us were from the other 10 tribes. He was kind of a freak, and his son was a real piece of work. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2845 "2025-04-15T07:41:23Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > A certain number of Jews are required to form a Nation of Israel that will play a vital role in their Armageddon mythos after which whatever Jews did not die horribly and go to burn in hell for eternity the remainder will convert to Christianity. I think that number stands at about [**144,000**](https://www.gotquestions.org/144000.html), and – since I got a pretty damned low lottery number – I kind of like my chances 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2846 "2025-04-15T08:42:54Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I think that number stands at about [**144,000**](https://www.gotquestions.org/144000.html) If it’s that number, then I believe it has to be 12,000 from each tribe. I don’t think that’s possible anymore. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2847 "2025-04-15T11:50:17Z")
Us citizen, Trump voter, detained at the US-Canada border. > Blockquote"I really thought things would change after this administration, when we have Mr. Trump in office, things would change to the better," Atallah said. “Things actually changed to the worse.” > **[‘Treated like a criminal': US citizen says he was detained returning from Canada](https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/treated-like-a-criminal-us-citizen-says-he-was-detained-returning-from-canada/3686188/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR7Sx_OfSU7lwcxLlK8y1qsiBnidJEIaS1JyBSA4wc20pVSEsSBsxj-ikX47EQ_aem_UXpy80N1rMffQBO7aYoM9Q#7oz7aqph0msrolf5yt8mmlgggcftubo4n)** > > Bachir Atallah, a real estate attorney from New Hampshire, says he and his wife, Jessica Fakhri, were stopped crossing from Canada into Vermont You see, sir, you may be a US citizen. You may even be a Christian. But you are from Lebanon, and well, you know. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2848 "2025-04-15T12:54:45Z")
With names like that, you _know_ they’re criminals, terrorists or worse. /s ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2849 "2025-04-15T12:56:20Z")
The last line of the story is… _Atallah is planning to leave for Lebanon in a few days, and he is not sure what will happen when he tries to return._ Really? I’m pretty sure I do, especially since he’s giving interviews and saying mean things about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2850 "2025-04-15T13:01:52Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > With names like that, you _know_ they’re criminals, terrorists or worse. /s Yeah. My immediate thought just reading the quote was “With a name like that what did you _think_ Trump was going to do to you?” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2851 "2025-04-15T13:25:44Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Many continue thinking it while the leopards are in the process of eating their faces. The world has no shortage of otherwise intelligent people who believe that since they recognize the con for what it is, they won’t themselves fall victim. That is, until they find their faces have been eaten. I often think about this scene from _Forbidden Planet_: > [@](#): > > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): What is the Id? > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): [_frustrated_] Id, id, id, id, id! > - [_calming down_] > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): It’s a… It’s an obsolete term. I’m afraid once used to describe the elementary basis of the subconscious mind. > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): [_to himself_] Monsters from the id… > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): Huh? > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): Monsters from the subconscious. Of course. That’s what Doc meant. Morbius. The big machine, 8,000 miles of klystron relays, enough power for a whole population of creative geniuses, operated by remote control. Morbius, operated by the electromagnetic impulses of individual Krell brains. > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): To what purpose? > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): In return, that ultimate machine would instantaneously project solid matter to any point on the planet, In any shape or color they might imagine. For _any_ purpose, Morbius! Creation by mere thought. > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): Why haven’t I seen this all along? > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): But like you, the Krell forgot one deadly danger - their own subconscious hate and lust for destruction. > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): The beast. The mindless primitive! Even the Krell must have evolved from that beginning. > - [Commander Adams](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000558/?ref_=ttch_qu): And so those mindless beasts of the subconscious had access to a machine that could never be shut down. The secret devil of every soul on the planet all set free at once to loot and maim. And take revenge, Morbius, and kill! > - [Dr. Morbius](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682074/?ref_=ttch_qu): My poor Krell. After a million years of shining sanity, they could hardly have understood what power was destroying them. Monsters from the Id. That’s what we’re facing. Trump and the right-wing propaganda machine have created a country where people’s worst irrational instincts are validated, encouraged and then weaponized. It’s a heady and seductive message to many, which is why millions of people have succumbed to it. And why many more might literally succumb to it. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2852 "2025-04-15T13:48:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Trump and the right-wing propaganda machine have created a country where people’s worst irrational instincts are validated, encouraged and then weaponized. Maybe, maybe not. Because I’m trying to figure out what is to be gained by harassing an obvious citizen such as Atallah. I’m still not convinced this is the answer, because not everyone, even in ICE, is a mindless primitive ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2853 "2025-04-15T13:56:01Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > because not everyone, even in ICE, is a mindless primitive Every ICE officer doesn’t need to be a mindless primitive. Just enough of them to cause trouble. And to exert peer pressure on the more decent folks whose main goal is just to go to work, mind their own business, and not lose their job. As the primitives are slowly promoted and infiltrated upwards in the increasingly hostile hierarchy, eventually it comes to the point that Joe or Jane ICE Officer needs to choose: obey the new orders to do [whatever previously unconscionable thing] and keep their job or resign / be fired. And face a life of ever more hostile law enforcement folks at every level without that handy dandy badge of their own as a shit-shield. Most low-level Nazi’s really were just following orders. While swimming in a stew where evil was the main ingredient and they mostly just wanted to keep their head above water. The “banality of evil” is a resonant quote for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2854 "2025-04-15T14:08:41Z")
They have quotas to meet and they are grabbing the easy to reach fruit. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2855 "2025-04-15T14:20:03Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Because I’m trying to figure out what is to be gained by harassing an obvious **citizen such as Atallah** Because there are a lot of people in the US who absolutely hate the idea that they have citizens with names such as “Atallah”. Take a look around you. How many stories have we heard about people being harassed for speaking a language other than English when out in public? How many stories have we hear about people being told to “Go back where they came from”, even if they were born in the US? How many stories about people from one ethnicity being harassed because some idiot couldn’t tell them apart from another ethnicity that they’ve decide to _especially_ hate this week? All of those people want people like Atallah to feel unwelcome in the US, because, so far as the bigots are concerned, _they **are** unwelcome_. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2856 "2025-04-15T14:24:19Z")
I’m headed to Australia in a few weeks for work, and I’m actually a bit concerned they will demand to inspect my phone when I return home. I do not understand how that’s remotely legal. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2857 "2025-04-15T14:32:57Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > “I really thought things would change after this administration, when we have Mr. Trump in office, things would change to the better,” Atallah said. “Things actually changed to the worse.” His statement was truly stunning and astonishing. How the hell could anyone paying even an iota of attention think that “…things would change to the better…”, especially regarding immigration and border issues? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2858 "2025-04-15T14:40:52Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > especially regarding immigration and border issues? “I thought for sure that ‘Closing the border’ wouldn’t involve any sorts of changes for people crossing the border!” We pointed out to them many, many times that most people who are in the US illegally actually entered legally with a visa, but then overstayed their visa. The only way to stop that is to harass people at customs stations, at the border or in airports or seaports. The Face Eaten Folk thought it was all going to be Taticool Guys out hunting Coyotes in the dessert. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2859 "2025-04-15T14:46:20Z")
They heard Trump and others talking of “murderers and rapists” and thought that meant no change if you were a law-abiding American. They didn’t get that it was pure bull, and allusions to criminality just meant the _untermenschen_: the people of those lesser races. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/2860 "2025-04-15T14:58:24Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Every ICE officer doesn’t need to be a mindless primitive. Just enough of them to cause trouble. And to exert peer pressure on the more decent folks whose main goal is just to go to work, mind their own business, and not lose their job. I wonder what the #s show WRT ICE staffing. It would seem odd that 100% of them are just fine with everything they are being ordered to do. Are any ICE officers quitting? Is replacing them/hiring exempted from the freeze on other gov’t hiring? Even if I were the type of person who would be willing to accept a law enforcement or military job, I would HOPE there was some point at which I would think, “Well, THIS isn’t what I signed up for. And tho they pay me well, the pay isn’t good enough to do THAT!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=142) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=144)