# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3361 "2025-05-16T10:23:06Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Are you saying that only in the US liberal = left of center and conservative = right of center? > > That is unique to the US? Not unique to the US but left and right is relative to the polity being discussed. And in South African politics the brand of liberalism the DA follows is slightly right of centre. Mostly because some its consituent parties used to be consertive and and very right wing. The DA is a composite party that has ended up with right leaning tendencies. Imagine a country with 2 major parties, a communist party and a liberal party. They can’t both be left wing so the liberal party would end up on the right. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3362 "2025-05-16T10:23:18Z")
In most of the non-US world, the liberal party is close to the political center. Some - like the Norwegian or AUS Liberal parties - are center-right while others - like the UK’s LibDem and the Liberal party of Canada are center-left. “Left” to us non-USians is social democrats and socialists, and the social democrats are regarded as only a little left of center. A pretty good Reddit discussion about the terminology: [Why is liberalism left-wing in the US, but right-wing in Europe?](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalScience/comments/1c5fdr9/why_is_liberalism_leftwing_in_the_us_but/) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3363 "2025-05-16T13:12:38Z")
Idaho, one of those mooching red colored welfare states that receives more federal funding than it supplies through income taxes now wants to be spared from cuts coming to SNAP or Medicaid. Nearly 40% of their state budget is federal money. Looks like the leopards could be feasting on a lot of faces. > **[Congress weighs cuts to Medicaid, food stamps. In D.C., Gov. Little asks to...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/may/15/congress-weighs-cuts-to-medicaid-food-stamps-in-dc/)** > > Idaho spends federal money more efficiently than most states, Gov. Brad Little told reporters Monday. In its administration of the federal food stamps, for example, Idaho has the highest rate of compliance and the lowest rate of fraud, he said. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3364 "2025-05-16T13:17:50Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > > [@dasmoocher](#): > > > > I’m just surprised Trump’s never flown around in a blimp modeled on the _Hindenburg_ but bigger. > > The Hindenberder. I laughed way too hard at this! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3365 "2025-05-16T14:02:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > …Idaho has the highest rate of compliance and the lowest rate of fraud, [Little] said. Yeah, cite, Brad. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3366 "2025-05-16T14:22:03Z")
Translation: There are so many women, racial minorities, and other undesirables in other states. Why are you eating our faces first?! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3367 "2025-05-16T14:33:27Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Idaho, one of those mooching red colored welfare states that receives more federal funding than it supplies through income taxes now wants to be spared from cuts coming to SNAP or Medicaid. Nearly 40% of their state budget is federal money. Looks like the leopards could be feasting on a lot of faces. Isn’t Idaho one of the places trump is sending some of the Afrikaner refugees? Maybe they’re supposed to fix everything somehow. > **[Among the first Afrikaner refugees accepted in U.S., two families headed to...](https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/politics-government/2025-05-12/idaho-uscri-afrikaner-twin-falls-refugee-resettlement-trump)** > > The first group of Afrikaners granted refugee status in the U.S. have arrived in the country. On Monday, the white descendants of mostly Dutch colonizers of South Africa flew into Washington DC on a chartered plane. Among them were two families... ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3368 "2025-05-16T14:54:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Isn’t Idaho one of the places trump is sending some of the Afrikaner refugees? Yep. Apparently Idaho isn’t white enough! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3369 "2025-05-16T15:04:51Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Isn’t Idaho one of the places trump is sending some of the Afrikaner refugees? Send them all there, and spare the rest of the country. Later we can build a fence around Idaho. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3370 "2025-05-16T15:07:33Z")
And make them pay for it? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3371 "2025-05-16T15:25:10Z")
Absolutely! And while they are at it, build a long runway for that bribe/Qatar jet tRUMP is snagging for his very own and have that be the only place it is allowed to land or take off from. That should reduce its appeal quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3372 "2025-05-16T15:58:00Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Is there anything, anything at all, that he can do that does not disgrace a once proud country? I can think of several things, but then I have a vivid imagination. For example, a very specific and localized meteor strike would both improve the nation and be a boon to science. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3373 "2025-05-16T16:08:01Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Is there anything, anything at all, that he can do that does not disgrace a once proud country? Wait and see. I promise you will know ~~the~~ **an** answer much sooner than two weeks from now. And then there will be new answers to that question. Repeatedly. This is one area in which Donnie is an overachiever. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3374 "2025-05-16T16:53:46Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > > Isn’t Idaho one of the places trump is sending some of the Afrikaner refugees? > > Yep. Apparently Idaho isn’t white enough! It’s like carrying coals to Newcastle. No, wait… ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3375 "2025-05-16T16:55:18Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > It’s like carrying coals to Newcastle. No, wait… It’s like carrying those “clean coals” that Trump has personally scrubbed. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3376 "2025-05-16T19:44:49Z")
> [@Norse](#): > > In most of the non-US world, the liberal party is close to the political center. Some - like the Norwegian or AUS Liberal parties - are center-right while others - like the UK’s LibDem and the Liberal party of Canada are center-left. The full name of the Likud - Israel’s ruling right-wing party - is “Likud - the National Liberal Party”. That’s because it was formed in 1973 as an alliance of a bunch of smaller parties, led by the right-wing Herut (Independence) and the centrist Liberal Party. ---
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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > … Later we can build a fence around Idaho. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > And make them pay for it? 😁 A tempting idea, especially if it includes a [Polish Corridor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Corridor) along I-90. I don’t go to Montana — which is pretty red, but not nearly as whackadoodle crimson as Idaho-ho-ho — as much as I used to, but it would be nice to be able to get there without detouring through BC or OR. (The exact location of Heinlein’s [Coventry](https://mycroft.heinleinsociety.org/concordance/C_HC.htm#coventry) wasn’t specified, but I can imagine it being in southern Idaho.) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3378 "2025-05-16T23:31:41Z")
I understand. I want Texas to secede, but we get to keep the I40 corridor, and rte 66. ---
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> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > it would be nice to be able to get there without detouring through BC or OR It looks like you spend the least amount of time in Idaho if you start from Newport and go through Sand Point. Less than an hour and a half. But, of course, you have to go through Pend Oreille county, briefly, which is about as Idaho as you can get without being in Idaho. ---
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From wiki I see that there appear to be more center-right Liberal parties than center-left ones worldwide. There are a couple of Far-right or right wing Liberal parties. Lots of Liberal parties in the strict center. For some reason Japan’s [Liberal Democratic Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)) didn’t make the list. The LDP formed during the 1950s as a merger of 2 conservative parties. > **[Liberal Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party)** > > The Liberal Party is any of many political parties around the world. > The meaning of liberal varies around the world, ranging from liberal conservatism on the right to social liberalism on the left. For example, while the political systems of Australia and Canada share many similarities, the Liberal Party of Australia is Australia's major party on the centre-right, while the Liberal Party of Canada is typically described as centre-left. > This is a list of existing and active Liberal Parties worl... The Economist magazine, considered center-right by European standards, self-identifies as a liberal publication. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=168) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=170)