# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/321 "2024-11-19T17:55:31Z")
Yes, my point was that even if you make the max in SS, you aren’t PAYING taxes on it once everything is said and done, even if small portion is technically taxable, because it’s offset by the standard deduction or other deductions. I’ve been taking advantage of this every since I retired, pulling out taxable funds from a non IRA investment account I’m trying to spend down - calculating the amounts each year so my total tax liability stays at or under $0. To get back to the subject of the thread, this goes to my point that many working class Trump supporters that are expecting their income to increase because of “no taxes on Social Security” will be disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/322 "2024-11-19T22:26:11Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > FYI, apparently he no longer lives that shack in Texas but instead in a [compound of multi-million-dollar mansions in Austin](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/business/elon-musk-children-compound.html) he bought for his use and that of _some_ of the women with whom he’s had eleven (or more) children. That screams FLDS. Wow. > **[Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalist_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-Day_Saints)** > > The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (abbreviated to FLDS Church or FLDS) is a Mormon fundamentalist group whose members practice polygamy. It is variously defined as a cult, a sect or a new religious movement. The FLDS Church has been involved in various illegal activities, including child marriages, child abandonment, sexual assault and human trafficking including child sexual abuse. The sect is not connected to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints The F... ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/323 "2024-11-19T22:55:35Z")
I don’t think he’s a member of the FLDS cult or the “quiverfull” movement but he does believe that people need to have more children without worrying about the associated costs. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/324 "2024-11-19T22:58:23Z")
Correction: he believes the right sort of people (generally of lighter skin tones) need to have more children. His public statements definitely overlap heavily with the quiverfull moment, though without the religious component (though he’s now playing around with catering to that crowd since he seeks attention from anyone who will give it to him). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/325 "2024-11-19T23:01:26Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Correction: he believes the right sort of people (generally of lighter skin tones) need to have more children. I suspected that he cared _who_ has the children but didn’t want to _assume_ he was racist. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/326 "2024-11-19T23:04:27Z")
Oh yeah. There’s not even a lot of lines to read between. He doesn’t much bother with fig leafs anymore, either. ETA: Here an old post from last year referencing his worries about population decrease due to “Nordic peoples” exhibiting declining fertility rates: > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/4706): > > New name change incoming: Twinder. For bonus points, the guy who floated the idea His tweet quoted Musk, who expressed concerns about a “population collapse” in response to a study that showed declining fertility rates in Nordic countries. Nothing suspicious about Elmo being worried about not enough Nordic people reproducing leading to him conclude that “A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces by far,” Musk claimed. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/327 "2024-11-19T23:18:43Z")
His ideas are simple. And have a long history behind them. Namely: Ruling class men of the right race have lots of captive women who make lots and lots of babies. Anyone who steps out of line is banished. Or in earlier eras, killed. Fatcats been pushing that idea for millennia now. Nothing cutting edge or innovative about it. Rather the opposite. It’s positively medieval. And mid-evil. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/328 "2024-11-20T06:30:20Z")
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/329 "2024-11-20T06:47:41Z")
Vote for a Criminal President, get a President Criminal. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/330 "2024-11-23T09:31:59Z")
Sounds like Dana White was expecting a Cabinet appointment and feels snubbed. > **[UFC boss Dana White says he is done with ‘disgusting’ politics after backing...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/22/media/dana-white-ufc-trump-politics/index.html)** > > After embracing President-elect Donald Trump, the Ultimate Fighting Championship chief executive said in an interview this week he won’t help future presidential campaigns, stating he “want\[s\] nothing to do with politics.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/331 "2024-11-23T13:40:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dana White was expecting a Cabinet appointment and feels snubbed. Those grapes are probably super sour, too. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/332 "2024-11-23T20:54:11Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > Dana White was expecting a Cabinet appointment and feels snubbed. > > Those grapes are probably super sour, too Really, the new Administration should institute a course of study for all with ambitions to Serve Him: “_Fundamentals of Fundament Osculation_.” Apparently Dana White failed to use proper technique. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/333 "2024-11-23T22:41:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Sounds like Dana White was expecting a Cabinet appointment and feels snubbed. For a second I read that as Dan White. When he got snubbed, well, the results were not good. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/334 "2024-11-24T22:56:47Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I found out that weekend that I know several people that voted for Trump because they believe he’s going to be sending out big stimulus checks as soon as he’s elected. > > These are young men that aren’t political at all, they have no idea about the platforms and policies of either candidate……they just saw some stupid stuff on TikTok and YouTube that they really believed, so they all ran out and voted for Trump, not even voting in any of the other races on the ballot. I have an update on this. I found out that one of these people I thought had voted for Trump actually didn’t, because he thought the racial injustices he would bring about largely outweighed the advantage of the big stimulus checks for everyone. It made me feel better in one sense, because I know my friend didn’t vote for Trump….but on the other hand I’m horrified, because apparently these rumors were so prevalent that even people that weren’t Trump supporters believed that he was going to be sending out big checks. Then I look at another statistic from my state, North Carolina and 11% of voters didn’t vote on anything except the Presidental race and the vote tallies seem to indicate that the lion’s share of those votes were Trump votes……and I really wonder how much this stupid rumor had to do with that. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/335 "2024-11-25T18:37:41Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > even people that weren’t Trump supporters believed that he was going to be sending out big checks. In other words, buying votes. They’ll deserve what they get. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/336 "2024-11-26T15:05:33Z")
That matches for accounts I’ve read of black men voting for him because “he gave them money”. So his tactic of delaying the stimulus checks so that his name went on them had a purpose after all- fooling people into thinking he was giving money away personally. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/337 "2024-11-26T15:33:06Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > So his tactic of delaying the stimulus checks so that his name went on them had a purpose after all- fooling people into thinking he was giving money away personally. Not sure I follow. There _are_ no stimulus checks. What there is is an unattributed rumor campaign shortly before the election that during the upcoming trump admin there will be big checks mailed to everyone. Not necessarily from his personal funds versus government funds, but certainly at Dear Leader’s personal explicit orders. Orders that the rumor said would never happen under a President Harris. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/338 "2024-11-26T16:03:55Z")
Sorry if I wasn’t clear- the checks issued in [the early days of the pandemic](https://www.npr.org/2020/04/15/835105999/report-adding-trumps-name-to-checks-will-delay-them-irs-says-they-re-on-schedule) were delayed so that Donnie could put his name on them. It seems that many people thought either he was giving away his own money or that he was the reason they were getting the checks. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/339 "2024-11-26T16:14:00Z")
Gotcha. Thank you. I’d forgotten some of those details. If I had ever known them. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/340 "2024-11-27T01:13:33Z")
Shakin’ my damn head at this: > **[Immigrants’ Resentment Over New Arrivals Helped Boost Trump’s Popularity With...](https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-latino-trump-election-resentment-asylum)** > > Across the U.S., Latino immigrants who’ve been in the country a long time felt that asylum-seekers got preferential treatment. “Those of us who have been here for years get nothing,” said one woman from Mexico who has lived in Wisconsin for decades. Undocumented immigrants who have lived in the US for a long time and have US citizen children are looking forward to Trump (who in many cases their children voted for) with the expectation that not only will he not try to deport people who have been in the US for a long time and have been “following the rules” (I mean, really their only crime is violating US law!), but he’ll actually create a path to citizenship for them! Would that it could be so… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=18)