# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/341 "2024-11-27T02:30:07Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Undocumented immigrants who have lived in the US for a long time and have US citizen children are looking forward to Trump (who in many cases their children voted for) with the expectation that not only will he not try to deport people who have been in the US for a long time and have been “following the rules” (I mean, really their only crime is violating US law!), but he’ll actually create a path to citizenship for them! Their children will be subject to one of his, as he calls them, \*many first executive orders" and thus they will not be able to get a passport because they cannot prove their parents are in the country legally at the time the children were born. How’s _that_ for leopards eating faces? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/342 "2024-11-27T03:10:21Z")
Hey, no problem! Since he’ll be deporting the kids along with the parents. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/343 "2024-11-27T03:38:48Z")
I posted in the “Clusterfuck” thread, but it also belongs here: Actually, I’ve been reminded of this one since T\*\*\*\* 1.0. It’s almost like Aesop was Nostradamus or something. Library of Congress Aesop Fables [“The Frogs Who Wished For A King”] ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/344 "2024-11-27T11:15:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Their children will be subject to one of his, as he calls them, \*many first executive orders" and thus they will not be able to get a passport because they cannot prove their parents are in the country legally at the time the children were born. Is that something that will apply to everyone applying for a passport, or just brown people? Also - how _does_ one go about one’s parents were here legally? I don’t think either of my parents ever owned a passport. Native born, so no naturalization papers. Would I need to get a copy of their birth certificates? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/345 "2024-11-27T11:31:02Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Also - how _does_ one go about one’s parents were here legally? Probably by demonstrating they have pale skin. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/346 "2024-11-27T12:58:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Their children will be subject to one of his, as he calls them, \*many first executive orders" and thus they will not be able to get a passport … > > How’s _that_ for leopards eating faces? It’s not quite what you meant, but I’ll point out this irony: Not giving them a passport _will make it harder for them to leave the US._ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/347 "2024-11-27T13:28:41Z")
You are not thinking evil enough. Think of the federal public assistance programs that you need to show proof of citizenship for. That means even though these people were born in the United States, they won’t be able to get any of those public funds. Of course this will be after he issues an executive order denying citizenship to those who cannot prove their parents were in the United States legally at the time of the offspring’s birth. The inevitable court cases will end up at the Supreme Court. How do you think they will rule? I’m sorry I asked the wrong question. The correct question is: “Do you think the Supremes will overrule?” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/348 "2024-11-27T13:38:06Z")
In a Facebook group for federal employees, posters who voted for Trump have been saying that it’s only the deadwood that has to fear loss of jobs under the incoming Administration, and that productive workers will make out fine. Yeah, surrrre. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/349 "2024-11-27T13:39:49Z")
Premier of Ontario Doug (fucking) Ford is utterly shocked that Donald Trump is going to treat Canadians as if we’re all a bunch of goddamned foreigners, or some shit. > **[Ford says Trump's tariff threat 'like a family member stabbing you in the...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-trump-tariffs-canada-reaction-1.7393414)** > > Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Tuesday that U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's threat to slap a 25 per cent tariff on all Canadian goods is "like a family member stabbing you right in the heart." ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/350 "2024-11-27T14:13:07Z")
Figured this is as good a place as any for this supposition…it’s been mentioned above that business doesn’t want to kill the golden goose and will exert some influence on Trump to not completely tank every aspect of the economy. I’m just thinking of how if the new administration completely guts the FEC and axes any kind of enforcement for financial shenanigans, certain people are going to make a killing short-selling everything. After the Brexit vote, it was revealed that many hedge funds and other millionaires/billionaires [absolutely cleaned up by shorting the Sterling](https://www.npr.org/2018/06/26/623646564/as-the-british-pound-tumbled-after-the-brexit-vote-some-hedge-funds-made-million). Trying to find the name but my google-fu is rusty this early in the morning, but I remember reading about one rich a-hole who’d funded a lot of pro-Leave propaganda, who happily made something like 600 million Pounds the morning after the referendum, because of how much the Pound dropped. Just thinking, driving the US$ into a ditch, and crashing major stocks within key industries won’t be, as far as Trump’s backers are concerned, a bad idea, if they’ve got their shorts lined up. And with no enforcement, and a pliable media that never shows anyone on the “right” any reports of this happening, it’ll be quite the heist. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/351 "2024-11-27T14:53:16Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You are not thinking evil enough. Think of the federal public assistance programs that you need to show proof of citizenship for. That means even though these people were born in the United States, they won’t be able to get any of those public funds. For employment purposes, a Social Security Card or a birth certificate issued by a state, county, or municipality proves you’re authorized to work in the United States. Presenting a birth certificate showing you were born in O’ahu, Hawaii should establish your citizenship even if you have to present the long form. A federal court _should_ put a stop to ornerous requirements to establish proof of citizenship, but I don’t have a lot of faith in the courts these days. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/352 "2024-11-27T17:01:19Z")
Don’t quote me on it but I think British MP and major Brexit campaigner Jacob Reese Mogg (who has been referred to as the ‘honourable Member for the 18th Century’) was rumoured to have made a fortune by betting against the pound. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/353 "2024-11-27T17:06:36Z")
I hadn’t heard his name mentioned but it wouldn’t surprise me at all. I know that he moved a firm in the city that he founded to Dublin because he wanted it to continue to enjoy the free access to European financial markets after Brexit, despite his being one of the most vocal proponents of it. Look for a lot of offshore banking by GOP heavy hitters over the next few years. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/354 "2024-11-27T17:32:24Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > on’t quote me on it but I think British MP and major Brexit campaigner Jacob Reese Mogg (who has been referred to as the ‘honourable Member for the 18th Century’) was rumoured to have made a fortune by betting against the pound. Whether that’s true or not I don’t know. Highly likely, certainly, although I have no access to his personal financial information. Rees-Mogg’s father [literally wrote the book on profiting from economic disaster](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Streets-Investment-Profits-World/dp/067162735X). ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/355 "2024-11-27T20:34:25Z")
> [@veryfrank](#): > > Just thinking, driving the US$ into a ditch, and crashing major stocks within key industries won’t be, as far as Trump’s backers are concerned, a bad idea, if they’ve got their shorts lined up. And with no enforcement, and a pliable media that never shows anyone on the “right” any reports of this happening, it’ll be quite the heist. Yes. Those trying to comfort themselves with ‘big business won’t let Trump wreck the economy’ are very pointedly ignoring the way Big Business makes money off of financial manipulations. Those markets are complex and with Trumpian de-regulation a certainty, many one-percenters will be just _fine_ with the overall economy tanking. More champagne for them! > [@Jackmannii](#): > > In a Facebook group for federal employees, posters who voted for Trump have been saying that it’s only the deadwood that has to fear loss of jobs under the incoming Administration, and that productive workers will make out fine. > > Yeah, surrrre. If only “denial” could be harnessed as an energy source… we could stop the use of fossil fuels entirely! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/356 "2024-11-27T20:37:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Those trying to comfort themselves with ‘big business won’t let Trump wreck the economy’ are very pointedly ignoring the way Big Business makes money off of financial manipulations. And they are also ignoring that big business won’t actually have any way to _stop_ him, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/357 "2024-11-27T20:42:32Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And they are also ignoring that big business won’t actually have any way to _stop_ him, anyway. That’s right. While campaigning he had to make nice with big-business figures because he wanted their money. He had to at least pretend that he’d consider their welfare. But he owns the Treasury, now. The money is going to be flowing into his pockets in truly history-making speed (from foreign as well as domestic sources). He doesn’t care anymore what the heads of the big corps think. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/358 "2024-11-27T21:11:15Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > If only “denial” could be harnessed as an energy source… we could stop the use of fossil fuels entirely When everything goes in the tank because of Trumps moronic ideas, I’m wondering who they will blame first? They probably already have a list. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/359 "2024-11-27T21:14:58Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > They probably already have a list. I think we all know the top few entries on that list. Emmanuel Goldstein strikes again! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/360 "2024-11-27T21:18:45Z")
Yeah, for sure. But I wonder if it’s gonna be a more ‘Round up all Democrats’ and hang them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=19)