# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 186
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3701 "2025-06-24T14:19:51Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > The dragon also gazes into you? Tolkien’s [Glaurung](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons_in_Middle-earth) had some sort of dragon-gaze spellcasting ability: > Glaurung is shown to use his ability to control and enslave Men using his mind to wipe the memory of Túrin’s sister Nienor, though it was restored after Glaurung had perished. Sounds like staring into a TV screen at Trump blathering on Fox News has a similar effect on MAGAs. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3702 "2025-06-24T15:37:53Z")
But back to the leopards, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3703 "2025-06-24T15:55:06Z")
I don’t know, I may switch allegiance to the DEF party instead of the LEFP. Leopards are cute and cuddly (when they aren’t eating your face) but dragons are edgy and hip. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3704 "2025-06-24T15:58:38Z")
The two parties will eventually merge and become the DEF Leopards. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3705 "2025-06-24T16:06:28Z")
Mods, is that enough to ban @Gyrate? Asking for a friend! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3706 "2025-06-24T17:33:37Z")
I’m not sure who this guy voted for, but on the preponderance of evidence I’m going to guess the leopards got him. [Narciso Barranco: Father of 3 Marines arrested by masked federal agents in Santa Ana, California | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/us/narciso-barranco-father-detained-santa-ana?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2025-06-24T00:02:15) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3707 "2025-06-24T19:02:51Z")
I saw a video of this last night on the Rachel Maddow show. The agents had this guy on the ground and they were pounding his head. One of the agents stood between the guy and the camera so you couldn’t see everything that was going on. Later Rachel said that the guy wanted his son to go back and finish the yard job that had been interrupted by his arrest. He was very concerned that the job he had started would get finished properly. Damn! 😡 ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3708 "2025-06-24T21:04:46Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I’m not sure who this guy voted for, From the linked article, his son says he “feels betrayed.” I realize folk in difficult situations may not choose their words carefully, but I wonder who he thinks betrayed him? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3709 "2025-06-24T21:12:57Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I realize folk in difficult situations may not choose their words carefully, but I wonder who he thinks betrayed him? By this administration, I’d imagine. It is, after all, the gist of the “Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party” meme. This case demonstrates that even if you and your siblings are soldiers, that doesn’t grant your undocumented family any special dispensation. Plus, given that Trump is trying to eliminate birthright citizenship, that former Marine and his brothers are in their sights, too. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3710 "2025-06-24T21:20:56Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I realize folk in difficult situations may not choose their words carefully, but I wonder who he thinks betrayed him? C’mon, Trump doing exactly what they voted for and he said he was going to do, is clearly because the Democrats have not done enough to stop him. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3711 "2025-06-24T21:29:29Z")
Yeah - I agree that seems the most likely explanation. But nothing he is quoted as saying says anyone in the family voted for Trump, or that thought this administration would protect his father. I didn’t know if he thought he was “betrayed” by what he felt his military service would get him, or something else. People often think and speak unclearly. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3712 "2025-06-24T21:53:25Z")
Born in Chicago. White as they come. I feel betrayed too - by the entire USA. Oh, sure it’s the MAGA’s, but congress and SCOTUS has not put a stop to this. We have ALL been betrayed. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3713 "2025-06-24T22:36:55Z")
This. There is a lot of betrayal going on. These people fought for the USA, built a small business contributing to the economy, payed taxes. They invested in the country. Its a betrayal. Im not sure any of the MAGAs are the ones being betrayed. They are getting exactly what they voted for. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3714 "2025-06-24T22:49:55Z")
> [@FluffyBob](#): > > They are getting exactly what they voted for. I hope THEY do. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3715 "2025-06-27T14:56:11Z")
More irony. > **[Canadian National Who Died In ICE Custody Was Big Donald Trump Fan](https://www.wonkette.com/p/canadian-national-who-died-in-ice)** > > Doubtful that his comrades will mourn him. This story has been cited in a couple of threads. Interesting detail not mentioned in other stories: > Noviello didn’t have many political posts on his Facebook wall, but the few he did have suggest he was rather fond of the president whose policies ultimately led to his untimely death. > > He was also, it seems, a member of a group called “Trump Train Unstoppable.” And this: [![](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!czPh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F419ff6c0-ad90-49dd-a3d7-4fabbdddac70_1179x1310.webp) ](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!czPh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F419ff6c0-ad90-49dd-a3d7-4fabbdddac70_1179x1310.webp) **OUCH!!** ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3716 "2025-06-27T15:30:00Z")
That’s fucking hilarious. Good riddance to bad rubbish. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3717 "2025-06-27T15:36:12Z")
I’m waiting to hear that Noviello was part of the MS1 gang. Maple Syrup, Canada No. 1, Light. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3718 "2025-06-27T15:53:43Z")
More honest Canadian irony (not the Alanis kind) In 2017, Noviello and his father were convicted in Volusia County, Florida, of racketeering and selling drugs, including hydrocodone and oxycodone, and he was sentenced to 12 months in prison (of which he served 125 days before being released for good behavior) Not only was he in violation of his visa, but he was…a drug dealer! I mean, that’s epic stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3719 "2025-06-27T18:22:28Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > From the linked article, his son says he “feels betrayed.” I realize folk in difficult situations may not choose their words carefully, but I wonder who he thinks betrayed him? > **[The Three Marine Brothers Who Feel ‘Betrayed’ by America](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/latino-soldiers-deportations/683347/?gift=QgO_LHw-skz7EqtMG0lcxkTK_ifC2xILOeH-AjqHe0Y&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > What does America owe its Latino soldiers? Gift link (I hope) > … > Nearly 24 hours after the violent encounter, Barranco’s eldest son, Alejandro, was able to finally make contact with his father, who said he still had not received medical care, and that he was hungry and thirsty. (The Department of Homeland Security claimed that Barranco had “assaulted” agents with his string trimmer—[sharing](https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1937206354218725806) a video in which he can be seen turning toward the agents and briefly lifting it—and that he had declined medical care.) [In interviews with news agencies](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/23/us/narciso-barranco-father-detained-santa-ana), **Alejandro said that he and his brothers “feel hurt; we feel betrayed.”** Their father taught them to “respect this country, thank this country, and then that led us to join the Marine Corps and kind of give back to the country and be thankful,” [he said](https://people.com/3-marine-brothers-feel-betrayed-after-border-patrol-punches-detains-dad-11760623). > > Alejandro was deployed to Kabul in 2021, when the U.S. was evacuating from Afghanistan. > > Had a Marine treated a detainee the way that the Border Patrol agents treated his father, he told [MSNBC](https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLT2s5ItAWL/), it would have been considered a war crime. > … My bold. The USA betrayed them, that’s who. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3720 "2025-06-27T18:29:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The USA betrayed them, that’s who. Thanks for the followup. I might quibble whether “betray” is the correct word. Arguably, anyone can claim to be “betrayed” if their perception of the American dream did not come true for them. I agree that their father was treated inexcusably badly. No question about it. I’m just not sure how relevant their particular job choice is. Or what they feel they or their dad were owed because of their choice. But - as I said before - they are certainly free to think of things and express themselves in a manner I think less than optimal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=185) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=187)