# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 199
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3961 "2025-07-19T18:57:54Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I don’t think i can learn Portuguese. Eh, it’s pretty easy actually. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3962 "2025-07-19T19:25:05Z")
My guess is he/wife expected to be treated like the traitor Snowden or bloat bag Segal. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3963 "2025-07-19T19:44:07Z")
A lot of the leopard-fodder don’t seem to understand the difference between themselves and celebrities/friends of the powerful who act as [Judas-goats.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat) ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3964 "2025-07-20T01:02:43Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I don’t think i can learn Portuguese Move to Brazil. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3965 "2025-07-20T01:32:58Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Move to Brazil. Great. Now I have an [earworm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtHEgINHO0). ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3966 "2025-07-20T18:41:07Z")
Some of these people are unfathomably stupid. Murkowski keeps getting Alaska concessions to buy her vote on things she does not support. And is then surprised when the Trump administration reneges on those concessions > **[Sen. Murkowski, feeling ‘cheated’ by Trump actions against wind and solar,...](https://www.adn.com/business-economy/energy/2025/07/18/sen-murkowski-feeling-cheated-by-trump-actions-against-wind-and-solar-says-shell-go-to-bat-for-alaska-projects/)** > > Murkowski won a concession in the Big, Beautiful Bill to protect tax credits for 12 months for wind and solar. But she said a recent presidential order and Interior directive undercut those plans. > Sen. Lisa Murkowski said she feels “cheated” after she won a concession in the recently passed tax and spending law to protect wind and solar projects, only to see the president and his administration issue recent orders that she said seem designed to quickly quash such projects. > “I feel cheated,” she said in an interview Friday. “I feel like we made a deal and then hours later, a deal was made to somebody else.” At some point, don’t you realize you’re being cheated and start fighting for the things you actually believe in? You and Collins are the two biggest cowards in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3967 "2025-07-20T18:51:46Z")
“Admit it, Lisa, you don’t come here just for the hunting, do you?” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3968 "2025-07-20T19:49:17Z")
⬆ Indeed. 🐻 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3969 "2025-07-20T19:53:41Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > At some point, don’t you realize you’re being cheated and start fighting for the things you actually believe in? You and Collins are the two biggest cowards in the Senate. By this point, I think that everyone with a brain realizes that Murkowski’s and Collins’s “concerns” and initial opposition to the actions and initiatives of Trump and the rest of the GOP are nothing but performance art. I’m not certain if either of them have every actually stuck to their guns when the final votes were happening, in a way which actually stood against Trump when it counted. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3970 "2025-07-20T20:22:52Z")
> **[Tennessee woman denied prenatal care for being unmarried - Nashville Banner](https://nashvillebanner.com/2025/07/20/doctor-denies-pregnant-woman-care/)** > > Denial of prenatal care to unmarried women in Tennessee raises concerns over the state's Medical Ethics Defense Act. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3971 "2025-07-20T20:54:27Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I’m not certain if either of them have every actually stuck to their guns when the final votes were happening, in a way which actually stood against Trump when it counted. Both voted (along with, famously, John McCain) to not repeal the Affordable Care Act in 2017. The repeal failed, 51-49, so either would have made the difference (with Mike Pence breaking the tie). Of course, I’m not sure how many more recent examples there may be. I don’t think they ever used their legislative leverage in ways similar to how Joe Manchin or Kyrsten Sinema did on the Democratic side. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3972 "2025-07-20T22:18:43Z")
Sickening. When I read things like this, I wonder if I should encourage my daughter to leave the country while there’s still time. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3973 "2025-07-20T22:53:48Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > By this point, I think that everyone with a brain realizes that Murkowski’s and Collins’s “concerns” and initial opposition to the actions and initiatives of Trump and the rest of the GOP are nothing but performance art. Both will be formidable Senate candidates in 2026 (Collins) and 2028 (Murkowski). ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3974 "2025-07-20T22:57:19Z")
I’d be pissing myself if I had a daughter right now. I don’t think your fears are unfounded at all. My state has enshrined reproductive health into the constitution, but I don’t expect it to hold for long. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3975 "2025-07-20T23:21:33Z")
That is absolutely horrible. There is no legitimate defense for that. Fucking awful. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3976 "2025-07-20T23:38:15Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Both will be formidable Senate candidates in 2026 (Collins) and 2028 (Murkowski). Maybe. [Collins’ approval rating among Maine voters is now at only 38%](https://www.newsweek.com/susan-collins-dealt-new-polling-blow-ahead-2026-midterms-2100479); it was at 47% at the end of last year. Way too early to tell, of course, but Maine isn’t a “safe red state,” and Harris won the presidential vote there by 7%. In a March poll of Alaska voters, [Murkowski’s approval rating was only a bit better (43%)](https://www.juneauempire.com/news/statewide-poll-trump-murkowski-provoke-strongest-feelings-sullivan-most-popular-among-delegation/). If it’s way too early to tell for '26, it certainly is for '28. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3977 "2025-07-21T06:05:45Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I’d be pissing myself if I had a daughter right now. My nephew has 3 daughters, in Georgia. I pleaded, begged, argued and tried to bribe him to vote D. He wouldn’t do it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3978 "2025-07-21T11:37:01Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I’d be pissing myself if I had a daughter right now. We’ve suggested to our three adult children - two of whom were international adoptees, one of whom is a daughter - that’s it’s best for many reasons that they stay here in Massachusetts, at least for now. As it happens, they all want to stay local anyway, but, for example, under a lot of normal circumstances (e.g. career moves) we could have seen them moving to New Hampshire, but that just seems unwise for the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3979 "2025-07-29T16:50:18Z")
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/3982 "2025-07-27T13:19:46Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > At some point, don’t you realize you’re being cheated and start fighting for the things you actually believe in? (Murkowski) and Collins are the two biggest cowards in the Senate. Hey, don’t be unfair to Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, who takes second to no one in the Senate when it comes to cowardice and being played for a fool. Cassidy is the pro-vaccine M.D. who sacrificed his principles for his political future by voting to confirm RFK Jr. as HHS secretary, obtaining worthless promises from Junior in return for his vote. _“To this end, Mr. Kennedy and the administration committed that he and I will have an unprecedently close collaborative working relationship if he is confirmed. We will meet or speak multiple times a month. This collaboration will allow us to work well together and therefore to be more effective…He has also committed that he would work within the current vaccine approval and safety monitoring systems, and not establish parallel systems. If confirmed, he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices without changes.”_ It didn’t take long for that to [blow up in Cassidy’s face](https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5345378-kennedy-cassidy-vaccine-policy/). Now he’s reduced to pained bleatings on Twitter about how HHS should support vaccination, not sabotage it. But actually acting on his beliefs might mean getting primaried and losing his Senate seat, so uh-uh, no go. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=198) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=200)