# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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For sure. 🙂

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**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4056 "2025-08-14T14:38:35Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I get the sentiment, but dude: policies have consequences and Trump’s were not helpful.

I don’t really get the sentiment - it seems like what he’s saying is no matter who the employees voted for they would have lost their jobs. And that’s true, to the extent that his co-workers who voted for Harris also lost their jobs. But it’s also true that if everyone who has been hurt by one Trump policy or another had voted for Harris, Trump wouldn’t have won.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4057 "2025-08-14T14:57:21Z")

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> [@doreen](#):
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> > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> > I get the sentiment, but dude: policies have consequences and Trump’s were not helpful.
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> I don’t really get the sentiment - it seems like what he’s saying is no matter who the employees voted for they would have lost their jobs. And that’s true, to the extent that his co-workers who voted for Harris also lost their jobs. But it’s also true that if everyone who has been hurt by one Trump policy or another had voted for Harris, Trump wouldn’t have

And that’s the basic stumble on that person’s part — the idea that it’s only “political” if it’s _explicitly targeted_. Everyone lost their job _including_ the Trumpists, so that somehow absolves them of responsibility.

“This experiment blew up in my face. Don’t come saying I should not have done it or you told me so, that’s rude! It could have worked and then no one would be upset ! But since it did blow up, you should care about my injuries!”

Similarly the people lamenting social/family breakups “over politics”: _I did not vote for a specific promise to hurt **you** , [optional: and **you** are not the one being hurt yourself] so why should you rebuke me?_

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4058 "2025-08-14T15:00:33Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> The prevailing sentiment being how sad it was for these relationships to be damaged by something so trivial as politics.

This made me think for a moment. If you think politics (esp. Trump’s policies) are trivial, it’s only because you’re protected from him.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> If you think politics (esp. Trump’s policies) are trivial, it’s only because you’re protected from him.

Or because you have had it hammered into your mind that it does not matter because “the system” will do what it will and screw you over anyway.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4060 "2025-08-14T15:05:15Z")

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Or think you’re protected

They don’t expect their own faces to be Leopard chow, even after a sizable bite

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4061 "2025-08-14T15:27:23Z")

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It is the satisfaction of knowing that others got hurt too that fuels them, even above their own personal experience.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4062 "2025-08-14T16:14:43Z")

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Carrie Underwood can’t hire any farm hands because all of hers disappeared, or something…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yo_k496-W-Y/maxresdefault.jpg "Carrie Underwood Facing CRISIS at Home (Report)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo_k496-W-Y)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4063 "2025-08-14T16:35:39Z")

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I stuck ‘Carrie Underwood farm’ into Google and got a ton of hits, and it all comes from someplace called Radar Online, which said:

> “It’s become too much for her to maintain, and she’s getting no sleep because she’s up at the crack of dawn taking care of all these animals,” said the insider of the chickens, horses, and sheep on the property, which also includes fruit trees, a greenhouse, and multiple gardens.
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> “She’s shoveling hay, weeding, fertilizing, harvesting, and then there are the repairs that never end.”
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> The source added: “It doesn’t help that she’s had a hard time finding and keeping hired hands.”

So, a lot hangs on one sentence, and it could just be she’s a jerk to work for.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4064 "2025-08-14T16:39:44Z")

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> [@doreen](#):
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> I don’t really get the sentiment - it seems like what he’s saying is no matter who the employees voted for they would have lost their jobs.

The sentiment as I understood it was, “Calamity has happened here and I/we are too overwhelmed to think about politics (and causes).” They need to focus on job hunting, possibly moving locations, paying rent, the kids. I get that part.

There’s a time and place for democracy though, the process by which people govern themselves. The people are sovereign, which implies that individuals need to accept responsibility for their voting choices and their information choices. It’s acceptable to make mistakes -we all do- but making the same mistake multiple times indicates a dim consciousness. You can try to avoid that - or not. Your life, your dance.

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4065 "2025-08-14T16:52:46Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Calamity has happened here

Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who…

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4066 "2025-08-14T17:40:06Z")

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Mistakes were made, surely we can say that!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4067 "2025-08-14T17:52:16Z")

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Do you mean “Mistakes were made _on both sides_”?

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4068 "2025-08-14T21:18:22Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It is the satisfaction of knowing that others got hurt too that fuels them, even above their own personal experience.

As Davis X. Machina put it many years ago:

> “The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of who will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn’t even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it.”

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4069 "2025-08-14T23:01:07Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> It’s a pretty common sentiment among Trump supporters and I’ve seen a few acquaintances over the years lament strained relations with friends and family because of politics. The prevailing sentiment being how sad it was for these relationships to be damaged by something so trivial as politics

And how many of their friends know they’re a Trump supporter because THEY brought it up. Some of the Trump supporters that I know, I only know they support him because they’ll randomly bring it up. Whether they’re wearing MAGA merch or whining about something being Biden/Obama’s fault or even saying, without being asked (though part of a bigger conversation) “I’ll admit it, I voted for Trump”. Side note, if you have to say “I’ll admit it”, you’re already aware it’s problematic.

OTOH, I know plenty of people that I suspect are Trump supports but I don’t have any actual evidence, because like a lot of people, they don’t bring up politics for no reason.

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I haven’t read this thread, so maybe this has been brought up already, but I thought that folks here would enjoy this article:

> **[Trump Burger Founder Faces Charges of Flagrant Abuse of U.S. Immigration Laws...](https://www.fayettecountyrecord.com/news/trump-burger-founder-faces-charges-flagrant-abuse-us-immigration-laws)**
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> Roland Beainy, a Lebanese immigrant and one of the parties to a lawsuit over the Trump Burger Restaurant in Flatonia, faces mounting legal trouble. This week the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) accused him of “flagrant abuse” of U.S....

This guy owns a couple of “Trump themed” restaurants. One is in Flatonia, about an hourish southeast of Austin. The other is in Kemah, a touristy suburb of Houston near NASA’s Johnson Space Center. At these restaurants, one can pose for pictures with a cardboard Trump cutout and other Trump merch. In addition to his immigration problems, the Trump Organization is suing for using Trump trademarks without permission.

Poor guy. 😂

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I stuck ‘Carrie Underwood farm’ into Google and got a ton of hits, and it all comes from someplace called Radar Online, which said:
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> > “It’s become too much for her to maintain, and she’s getting no sleep because she’s up at the crack of dawn taking care of all these animals,” said the insider of the chickens, horses, and sheep on the property, which also includes fruit trees, a greenhouse, and multiple gardens.
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> > “She’s shoveling hay, weeding, fertilizing, harvesting, and then there are the repairs that never end.”

Aww, poor thing. Who could have possibly predicted that a farm requires loads of work? 🎻

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you mean “Mistakes were made _on both sides_”?

No. _Mistakes were made, especially by the libs. I wouldn’t have even voted in this election if the libs hadn’t gone too far and me show up for Trump._

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Wait, farms aren’t just for tax write-offs???

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**Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4074 "2025-08-16T00:39:23Z")

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Who knew, right???

My mom inherited some farmland from my grandfather when he passed away; that’s how we found out about programs that essentially pay you to not plant a specified crop. When my parents explained this to child-me, I promptly started writing extra lines for “Old MacDonald” (_and on this farm he had no corn, e-i-e-i-o)._

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