# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 203
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4075 "2025-08-16T00:50:24Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Who knew, right??? Clearly not the folks that are worried about paying ~~Inheritance~~ Death Tax on their, as far as taxes are concerned, nonexistent estates. ‘Some day I two mite be come a millionair with a estate with a farm, a manshun and a yat, I just half to win the lotery! Thats why I vote again my ecernomic interists.’ ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4076 "2025-08-16T01:31:20Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > ‘Some day I two mite be come a millionair with a estate with a farm, a manshun and a yat, I just half to win the lotery! Thats why I vote again my ecernomic interists.’ Mocking those who don’t meet your orthographic standards is not a good look. Ad hominem at best and racist at worst. You can make your point better without it. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4077 "2025-08-16T01:41:18Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Mocking those who don’t meet your orthographic standards is not a good look. No, I’m trying to recreate their actual speech patterns and content (that I have personally heard) that exposes both their illiteracy and their innumeracy. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4078 "2025-08-16T01:51:37Z")
Racist? _Classist_ I’ll buy, but I’m pretty sure most of the Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires with this mindset are white. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4079 "2025-08-16T01:56:44Z")
> [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > _Classist_ I’ll buy, Also a stretch given my current assets are less than $100. Unless you mean my desire to write a cookbook titled _Eat the Rich_. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4080 "2025-08-16T02:03:41Z")
It’s the one good piece of advice Aerosmith ever gave me. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4081 "2025-08-16T02:44:35Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > Mocking those who don’t meet your orthographic standards is not a good look. > > No, I’m trying to recreate their actual speech patterns and content (that I have personally heard) that exposes both their illiteracy and their innumeracy. Okay, then mocking those who don’t meet your speech standards is not a good look. > [@Fretful\_Porpentine](#): > > Racist? _Classist_ I’ll buy, but I’m pretty sure most of the Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires with this mindset are white. I’m not accusing anyone in particular of being racist here, but pointing out that racists are known for mocking others’ spelling and speech. Don’t do things racists do is a low bar. And it’s still an ad-hominem attack to discount an argument because of nonstandard spelling or speech. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4082 "2025-08-16T02:53:43Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Okay, then mocking those who don’t meet your speech standards is not a good look. Which, as I noted, is not what I’m fucking doing. > [@Pleonast](#): > > And it’s still an ad-hominem attack to discount an argument because of nonstandard spelling or speech. Yes, but I’m not doing that. I’m not saying their ‘’‘arguments’‘’ are dumb because they are stupid. I am saying that they are stupid and that’s why their ‘’‘arguments’‘’ are dumb. It’s an insult, not an ad-hom. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4083 "2025-08-16T02:59:29Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I am saying that they are stupid and that’s why their ‘’‘arguments’‘’ are dumb. In that case, you’re a bigot for equating nonstandard speech patterns with stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4084 "2025-08-16T03:04:41Z")
There’s no equating involved, their inability to use words correctly is a result of, and a clear indication of, their stupidity. These are people using words and expressing ideas that they clearly do not understand. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4085 "2025-08-16T03:31:13Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > My mom inherited some farmland from my grandfather when he passed away; that’s how we found out about programs that essentially pay you to not plant a specified crop. When my parents explained this to child-me, I promptly started writing extra lines for “Old MacDonald” (_and on this farm he had no corn, e-i-e-i-o)._ As Joseph Heller wrote: > His specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn’t earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major’s father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the county. Neighbours sought him out for advice on all subjects, for he had made much money and was therefore wise. “As ye sow, so shall ye reap,” he counselled one and all, and everyone said “Amen.” ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4086 "2025-08-16T03:35:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Unless you mean my desire to write a cookbook titled _Eat the Rich_. Maybe a better title would be, “To Serve the Rich.” It could be a stealth hit. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4087 "2025-08-16T03:40:31Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Maybe a better title would be, “To Serve the Rich.” It could be a stealth hit. Don’t forget the Chianti. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4088 "2025-08-16T03:52:27Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Unless you mean my desire to write a cookbook titled _Eat the Rich_. > **[Eat the Rich (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_the_Rich_(film))** > > Eat the Rich is a 1987 British black comedy film directed by Peter Richardson, who also wrote the screenplay with Pete Richens. A co-production between Channel 4 Films, Iron Fist Motion Pictures and Michael White Productions, it features cast members from the popular television series The Comic Strip Presents.... > The film stars Lanah Pellay as Alex, Nosher Powell as the Home Secretary, and a number of cameos, including by Miranda Richardson, Nigel Planer, Robbie Coltrane, Rik Mayall, Paul McC... Why, yes. I _do_ have the DVD. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4089 "2025-08-16T04:14:51Z")
Can’t agree that these right-wingers’ dialect/speech patterns/spelling are part of the problem here. US culture, like other cultures, is just loaded with prejudiced assumptions about non-“standard” dialects because they “sound stupid” and “get language wrong”. Nope. You’re right that the Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire types who aspirationally vote against their own (realistic) economic interests are indeed being stupid and clueless. But trying to emphasize that by making fun of their presumed “hick” or “backwoods” dialect, although it has a very long tradition in American political humor, isn’t really persuasive or funny, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4090 "2025-08-16T04:37:40Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Can’t agree that these right-wingers’ dialect/speech patterns/spelling are part of the problem here. US culture, like other cultures, is just loaded with prejudiced assumptions about non-“standard” dialects because they “sound stupid” and “get language wrong”. I’m not saying it’s part of the problem. If Trump says ‘Chyner is going to pay the tariffs!’ or Ted Stevens says “The internet is not something that you just dump something on, it’s not a big truck, it’s, it’s a series of tubes,” or someone claims “subject matter expertise” but cannot describe the subject matter with the words an actual expert would use, clearly is not aware of the shibboleths that mark said expertise, can we not conclude that that person does not know what the fuck they are talking about and that they are stupid and that their opinions are not valid? [Insert Harlan Ellison quote here.](https://www.azquotes.com/quote/529830) I’m not talking about standard dialects and getting language wrong. I’m talking about people that say things that do not comport with reality in a way that makes it clear that they do not know what the words they are saying even mean and drawing conclusions based on that. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4091 "2025-08-16T11:45:10Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > There’s no equating involved, their inability to use words correctly is a result of, and a clear indication of, their stupidity. Use of a non-standard accent or dialect is not an indicator of intelligence, or lack of it. That attitude is a long-standing complaint of some communities and is a legitimate complaint against the mainstream. Also a pretty sure bet any outsider attempting to mock them is going to get it wrong. Either way, it’s a bad look for the person doing it. So please stop. > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’m not talking about standard dialects and getting language wrong. I’m talking about people that say things that do not comport with reality in a way that makes it clear that they do not know what the words they are saying even mean and drawing conclusions based on that. That’s legit. But you went about it by mocking their accent/dialect, and that is not cool. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4092 "2025-08-16T12:50:31Z")
I do think a native English speaker’s inability to spell and use common words correctly, and thinking an apostrophe denotes plural, or not knowing the difference between “your” and “you’re” are indicators of intelligence, though. I mean, these sorts of things would have been taught starting very early in school, and I’m sure every teacher in every grade would correct them when seen. So if you can’t learn those things, what is it an indicator of? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4093 "2025-08-16T14:08:35Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I do think a native English speaker’s inability to spell and use common words correctly, and thinking an apostrophe denotes plural, or not knowing the difference between “your” and “you’re” are indicators of intelligence, though. Yes, but that is an entirely different thing than the non-standard spelling/punctuation used to emulate a non-standard dialect. > [@OldOlds](#): > > I mean, these sorts of things would have been taught starting very early in school, and I’m sure every teacher in every grade would correct them when seen. You do realize that the quality of education varies wildly in this country? > [@OldOlds](#): > > So if you can’t learn those things, what is it an indicator of? Dyslexia? Poor quality schools? Early drop-out? Bad homeschooling? Child abuse/neglect? (preventing a child from going to school combined with not homeschooling) Maybe I’m just sensitive to that because my mother-in-law was an early drop out in a family that valued putting kids to work early over having them “waste time” in school, a woman who was quite intelligent but barely literate due to growing up in that environment. Oh, and she also spoke a non-standard dialect. But she wasn’t dumb, or stupid, or any of those things. Just disadvantaged, which is a real thing. Honestly, mocking someone’s non-standard dialect is nearly as bad as when Trump mocked a disabled reporter. So don’t do it. Be better than that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4094 "2025-08-16T17:10:48Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Early drop-out? That would be me. I never darkened the doors of my high school and, somehow, technically finished eighth grade despite my lack of attendance. Yet, somehow, I can properly pronounce _China_ and understand how tariffs work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=202) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=204)