# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 205
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4115 "2025-08-17T14:49:43Z")
Nothing could dent trumpians’ love of their prophet / cult führer. But trump’s own ego is large enough that truly embarrassing kompromat might be enough to drive trump’s behavior. Which is all Putin cares about. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4116 "2025-08-17T17:14:27Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > In a similar vein - reacting to people who are sure that Putin has “some dirt” on Trump: what dirt could there possibly be that would offend Trumplicans sufficiently to desert their idol? Recall that Trump has an approval rating of 44% and a strong approval rating of 26%, down from 28% on July 1st. These are trendline approval ratings, so their error margin is lower. Trump is not a popular President and his electoral support hinges on persuadable people. Hard to say what would break through Fox News, other than cutting the cable. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4117 "2025-08-17T17:17:54Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > In a similar vein - reacting to people who are sure that Putin has “some dirt” on Trump: what dirt could there possibly be that would offend Trumplicans sufficiently to desert their idol? > > Recall that Trump has an approval rating of 44% and a strong approval rating of 26%, down from 28% on July 1st. These are trendline approval ratings, so their error margin is lower. Trump is not a popular President and his electoral support hinges on persuadable people. > > Hard to say what would break through Fox News, other than cutting the cable. Cutting the cable is what we should be aiming for. I don’t know what that would look like but we need to figure out something. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4118 "2025-08-17T18:25:48Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Trump is not a popular President and his electoral support hinges on persuadable people. Yes, but why? Is it because of what he’s doing or is it because he’s not doing it hard enough? ‘Do you support Hitler?’ ‘Nein!’ ‘Why not?’ ‘He isn’t gassing all the people I want gassed!’ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4119 "2025-08-17T18:48:22Z")
I don’t know that trump needs “electoral support”. He’s not running again. If he’s president after Jan 2029 it won’t be because he won an election. Yes, trump’d like a good midterm result in 2026. But as long as the propaganda keeps pushing the MAGA line, an awful lot of House reps know they’ll be judged (or primaried) on their fealty to the MAGA project, regardless of whether it’s working or not working for the working class. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4120 "2025-08-17T19:08:03Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I suspect my father in law will pay closer attention now, when I say I don’t want to be invited to stuff if his brother is going to be there. FIL has a habit of not respecting people’s wishes. Nah. One other thing that characterizes them is the certainty that nobody has the right of refusal. _Especially_ from family. And _ **especially** _ if those making them upset are “elders”. Remember their fixation about “cancel culture” and “divisiveness” that translates into everyone else just should suck it up if made uncomfortable. > [@Andy\_L](#): > > Something JFK never could do To this day I cringe at “Q-ber” in his old newsreels. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4121 "2025-08-17T19:14:18Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Nah. One other thing that characterizes them is the certainty that nobody has the right of refusal. > > _Especially_ from family. And _ **especially** _ if those making them upset are “elders”. My FIL is a passive-aggressive and controlling twat. He knows that I’m estranged from my sister (fascist) and he always asks how she’s doing. Same with his brother, we had told FIL we had no interest in interacting with him and he didn’t tell us he would be there. He relies on everyone just accommodating him when he ignores our boundaries, but my new policy is just to let him experience the consequences of his boundary crossing. It really freaks him the fuck out. He’s one of those “agree to disagree” type of idiots. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4122 "2025-08-17T20:44:41Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > my new policy is just to let him experience the consequences of his boundary crossing. It really freaks him the fuck out. Do you own a body cam? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4123 "2025-08-17T20:58:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Do you own a body cam? I have a GoPro. Unbeknownst to him, we are trying to build a house in another country and move there (it’s slower than I had hoped); maybe I’ll use the GoPro when we tell him we’re leaving. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4124 "2025-08-17T21:14:57Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > we are trying to build a house in another country and move there We’ve looked at houses in Tuscany. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4125 "2025-08-17T21:55:18Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Yes, but why? Is it because of what he’s doing or is it because he’s not doing it hard enough? Trump is unpopular because of what he’s doing. I have trouble backing this claim, because there’s so little polling evidence evaluating it. But by way of example, I don’t see a groundswell for tougher immigration policy and approval for it is underwater. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:kem5cevl5sjpizk4s27cbyig/bafkreid3vi6d5m5klelaynclgs2arjniss3eg4erfu7l5d2vxydrskssqu@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:kem5cevl5sjpizk4s27cbyig/bafkreid3vi6d5m5klelaynclgs2arjniss3eg4erfu7l5d2vxydrskssqu@jpeg) Pew’s data shows a predictable partisan breakdown. Most Republicans think Trump is honest and a good role model; Democrats, independents, and normal people disagree. > **[Trump’s job approval and views of his personal traits](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/08/14/trumps-job-approval-and-views-of-his-personal-traits/)** > > President Trump’s current job approval rating stands at 38% as of August – a modest decline from two months ago, when 41% approved. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4126 "2025-08-17T22:36:14Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Yes, trump’d like a good midterm result in 2026. Most worrisome to me is that Republicans seem to be acting like the midterms don’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4127 "2025-08-17T22:44:33Z")
I think that trying to gerrymander Texas shows they are thinking of the midterms and are concerned about losing seats. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4128 "2025-08-17T23:10:13Z")
Nope. They think the _voting_ in the midterms won’t matter. The fix, be that gerrymandering, or vote counting, or voter disenfranchisement, or …, is already in. They’ve already won and they mostly know it. The Rs are now practicing the post-democratic politics of sham elections. Just as are done in the countries they most admire: Russia, Hungary, & Turkïye. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4129 "2025-08-17T23:13:08Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > They’ve already won and they mostly know it. Yeah, America is post democracy. It’s over. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4130 "2025-08-18T01:15:15Z")
I could envision a coalition of “blue” states forming, with the primary goal of reconstituting replacements for the federal services that the Felonocracy has destroyed. They will reject his right to marshall the Guard in their states, or his right to bully them, by declaring that he is operating outside the bounds of Constiutional intent. They will not withhold the services they establish from the people of the “red” states but may decide to snub the governments of those states. It will be accomplished in an otherwise non-hostile way that makes pursuit of anything like civil war extremely difficult to justify. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4131 "2025-08-18T01:17:18Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > We’ve looked at houses in Tuscany. I wish I could afford Italy at the moment. It looks like Portugal could be doable but for a variety of reasons Mexico City or another of the safer cities in Mexico seems more likely. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4132 "2025-08-18T01:32:53Z")
The ongoing tightening of “golden visas” worldwide suggests that any American lacking other birthright citizenship or residency rights ought to get their hip-pocket authorization to live elsewhere secured ASAP and definitely before the 2026 elections. Note to self: quit procrastinating… ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4133 "2025-08-18T01:36:44Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I could envision a coalition of “blue” states forming, with the primary goal of reconstituting replacements for the federal services that the Felonocracy has destroyed. I really don’t see it. He just occupied the capital with troops and a bunch of people made stupid sandwich jokes. It’s over. ---
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4134 "2025-08-18T01:49:41Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Mexico City Might want to look elsewhere in Mexico. Mexico City is going to have some pretty severe water issues very soon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=204) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=206)