# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")
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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4375 "2025-08-23T01:15:40Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> “Trumprisma” It doesn’t quite map onto any proper existing word, so we need a new one. Like Changnesia.

The Shizzler.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4376 "2025-08-23T02:40:54Z")

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There’s got to be a Yiddish word that can be adapted.

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4377 "2025-08-23T03:57:00Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Reports I’ve been hearing on [streaming radio](https://tunein.com/radio/WVLI-927-s101785/) claim “classified documents”.

“Tap, tap, tap… Is this thing on??”

Not referring to Skywatcher.

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### Author: ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4378 "2025-08-24T02:34:19Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@Kimstu](#):
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> > “Charismagnetism”
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> “Trumprisma” It doesn’t quite map onto any proper existing word, so we need a new one. Like Changnesia.

He is, for all his countless flaws, a very good showman, albeit contemptuous of his crowd, very much in a P.T. Barnum way. It’s about the show, and letting the crowds involve themselves. But there doesn’t have to be any Substance to the show itself.

Or, from a slightly darker, yet also totally appropriate POV. He’s like the popular Hellfire and Damnation Preacher that swings through town periodically. I mean, if you think about what he says it isn’t going to be good for you, because you’re always overlooking your own many sins, but damn, you enjoy the show and the vicarious vicious pleasure in imagining _all those who have done you wrong_ **suffering** and that, That is what moves you.

Again, all about the show and selling that sizzle. Who cares if the Trump steak is tough and gristly, and the trim is gold-ish, not gold.

BTW - does anyone have any stories of two-time winners for the LEFP? I mean, they got their faces lovingly gnawed on for Trump 1.0, and are once again seeing said Leopards coming back for a second course in 2.0? Of course, triple word score if they confirmed they voted for him in 2020!

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### Author: ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4379 "2025-08-24T03:17:18Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@SunUp](#):
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> > I wonder what probable cause the warrant specified
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> Reports I’ve been hearing on [streaming radio](https://tunein.com/radio/WVLI-927-s101785/) claim “classified documents”.

But can the government prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Trump didn’t declassify the documents with his mind?

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### Author: ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4380 "2025-08-24T03:46:01Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> BTW - does anyone have any stories of two-time winners for the LEFP? I mean, they got their faces lovingly gnawed on for Trump 1.0, and are once again seeing said Leopards coming back for a second course in 2.0? Of course, triple word score if they confirmed they voted for him in 2020!

Not a two time winner, but a 2018 Newsweek article covered one, “Maria Guadalupe “Lupita” Rios, 60, [who] said she voted for Trump in 2016 in order to keep illegal immigrants out, but now she is worried her land will simply be seized to make way for the [border wall].” I guess she liked the idea of a wall, but not the idea of losing her property via eminent domain.

> **[Texas Border Residents Fear Trump Will Seize Their Land](https://www.newsweek.com/roma-texas-trump-wall-mexico-border-town-seize-land-federal-government-1263607)**
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> A Texas resident who voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election expressed her fear that his proposed border wall plan will seize her land.

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### Author: ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4381 "2025-08-24T04:03:12Z")

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Jewish space lasers!

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4382 "2025-08-24T07:30:15Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> > [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> > It’s more than charisma. Like the uber-charisma people have where you just can’t help but listen to them and see them as a leader. It is so hard to explain.
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> “Charismagnetism”?

What about [Charlatanry](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Charlatanry)?

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### Author: ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4383 "2025-08-24T18:17:02Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Trump is a one-off, and once he is gone, at least some of the semi-sane Republicans who were too cowed to stand up to him may grow a spine and vote with the Dems to fix some of the chaos Trump has created. It won’t be quick or easy or cheap.

I think it’ll be a hell of a lot more than not quick, easy or cheap. Hoping I’m dead wrong on this, but I’ll speculate that there’ll still be a sufficient amount of MAGA support to primary any semi-sane consevatives to the dustbin, well after the Orange Bastard’s exit.

Thus:

> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> The Tea Party heralded the _start_ of the MAGA cult. Its constantly evolving. It will evolve again. It won’t stop with Trump.

[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-meets-zelenskyy-ukraine-1.7616483](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-meets-zelenskyy-ukraine-1.7616483)

With all the administration’s (and others’) backlash against Ukraine, I find it very satisfying to see a national leader step up and show what is basically unconditional support for the wrongly-besiged country. Hoping this gets a sharting Trump angrily tweeting from his golden toliet at 3 am.

odd - no preview

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#### Post date: [August 24, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4384 "2025-08-24T19:19:11Z")

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> [@ricepad](#):
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> Yet another face eaten by leopards:
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> [Trump Burger co-owner in Houston could be deported after ICE arrest – Houston Public Media](https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/immigration/2025/08/08/528312/owner-of-houston-area-trump-burger-restaurant-arrested-by-ice-this-summer/)

Turns out this Trump Burger story is a double-decker:

> **[ICE Detains ANOTHER Owner of Viral ‘Trump Burger’ Restaurant](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-detains-another-owner-of-viral-trump-burger-restaurant/)**
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> A second Trump-loving restaurateur has been arrested—despite going to extreme lengths to display his idolization of the president.

Apparently this other co-owner has an extensive criminal record going back decades and has been in ICE custody since June!

ETA:

> His lawyers later told the paper that he is in such poor health, he fears he will die in ICE custody.

Fuck 'um.

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### Author: ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4385 "2025-08-26T10:01:22Z")

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Why should Canadians buy American? They’re right to not choose our booze. Especially Kentucky-the GOP chose tariffs, so….

> **[‘Put American spirits back’ on Canadian shelves, U.S. booze group urges -...](https://globalnews.ca/news/11348782/donald-trump-tariffs-canada-american-alcohol/)**
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> The move to take American booze off the shelves in many Canadian provinces has harmed U.S. distillers, the industry body said in its statement on Monday.

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### Author: ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4386 "2025-08-26T10:13:32Z")

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I’m reminded of the notice prominently posted in my local (Canadian) liquor store:

“AMERICAN LIQUOR AND WINE IS NOW MORE EXPENSIVE! THANKS TO TRUMP AND HIS TARIFFS!”

Then,

“But you can save by trying Canadian wines, spirits, and beers.”

I agree. Canadian wines, spirits and beers are worth trying.

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4387 "2025-08-26T11:17:31Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Why should Canadians buy American? They’re right to not choose our booze. Especially Kentucky-the GOP chose tariffs, so….

Will Trump and the GOP in general EVER get tired of shooting themselves in the foot?

“Wow, that hurt, let me try my other foot”.

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4388 "2025-08-26T11:27:25Z")

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Reality has a way of winning over fantasy. The problem is stubborn people who lurve their fantasies can keep their eyes scrunched shut for decades while reality beats them silly.

The fact somebody is telling them convenient “facts” that are false through and through makes them noticing that reality much harder than it was 20 or 50 years ago.

The social situation in this country is truly in uncharted territory when ~half the country lives in a truly alternate reality largely disconnected from real reality. Bizarro World has arrived.

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#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4389 "2025-08-26T11:48:58Z")

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Canadian….wine?

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
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Ice wines, donchya know? 😉

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### Author: ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4391 "2025-08-26T11:56:53Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Canadian….wine?

Canadian Niagara is my favorite variety of fox wine. Obviously to some people that would seem like the best reality TV show, but I sort of like them.

I’ve also had a good Canadian Gamay. This time, not as good as French Beaujolais, but still way above average for wine since I am a fan of Gamay.

Since those are the only two types of Canadian wines I’ve had, I guess I can say I really like Canadian wine thus far in my life.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I agree. Canadian wines, spirits and beers are worth trying.

But are they as trying as our president?

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Canadian Niagara is my favorite variety of fox wine.

I’ve heard of _snake_ wine, but _fox_? that sounds a bit hairy.

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It’s… an acquired taste.

> **[foxy](https://glossary.wein.plus/foxy-3)**
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> Flavour characteristic of certain species of Amerikaner-Reben and the wine made from them, which in Europa is usually understood negatively (in Japan, howe...

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> **[Vitis labrusca](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_labrusca)**
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> Vitis labrusca, the fox grape, is a species of grapevines belonging to the Vitis genus in the flowering plant family Vitaceae. The vines are native to eastern North America and are the source of many grape cultivars, including Catawba, Concord, Delaware, Isabella, Niagara, and many hybrid grape varieties such as Agawam, Alexander and Onaka. Among the characteristics of this vine species in contrast to the European wine grape Vitis vinifera are its "slip-skin" that allows the skin of the grape b...

> **[Vitis labrusca | Wine regions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_labrusca#Wine_regions)**
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> Vitis labrusca is located along the eastern seaboard of North America from Nova Scotia down to Georgia and westward to the Mississippi River. Among American Viticultural Areas (AVA)s that produce wine from labrusca or hybrids derived from labrusca include Upper Mississippi Valley, Mississippi Delta, Ohio River Valley, Southeastern New England, Lake Erie as well as several AVAs in the states of New York, Virginia, Ohio and Michigan. In the Canadian Province of Ontario, the use of Vitis labrusca Un...

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