# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2025, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4495 "2025-09-01T04:20:38Z")
Helen Hayes should be getting Residuals!
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### Author:  [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4496 "2025-09-01T10:49:01Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I say it is better to encourage people to fight slavery, after they have shown inclinations to do the same. It’s a controversial view, but I’m sticking to it.
I agree with you. I know tons of pro-choice women raised in very conservative families to be anti-abortion, and were, through high school-- some were even activists, and some remained so through college, but eventually reality changed their minds (that’s how one of them phrased it to me).
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4497 "2025-09-01T20:19:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@Horatius](#):
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> > The tie isn’t long enough, and you should be able to swap out one of his ears for one with a bullet hole in it.
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> I would like gauze on his right ear (like I used in previous ones), but first I tried adding ‘tiny hands’ to the description, thinking that it would just put smaller hands on the image it had made, and came up with something completely different. So I think that’s as good as it can get. ☹
Try “disproportionately tiny” hands.
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### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4498 "2025-09-02T10:30:05Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> decades of not even trying to actually stand for anything
I’d argue that pushing for things opposed by the other side = standing for something.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4499 "2025-09-02T16:00:16Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’d argue that pushing for things opposed by the other side = standing for something.
But they usually don’t. They just obstruct the Republicans a little.
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4500 "2025-09-02T18:14:37Z")
Clinton delivered a middle class tax cut. Both Obama and Clinton increased taxes on the rich. Both Obama and Clinton attempted healthcare reform; Obama succeeded, with an able assist from Nancy Pelosi. Biden’s climate policies, extensions of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), and stimulus directed at the lowest income groups were far from trivial.
Der’s claims appear to be directed at Democratic messaging, which I agree has problems. But then again, I’d push a moderate position on that score. Bang the drum on popular things like social security and medicare. Emulate Jared Golden of Maine, whose electoral performance beats his district’s [PVI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index) by the largest margin. In other words, ground your electoral strategy on stats, rather than feels.
In terms of rhetoric, I’m sympathetic to the arguments of [Oliver Willis](https://www.oliverexplains.com/): use simple language and don’t shy away from causal language. "Republicans want to do [policy], because they want to [bad effect].
Run on popular things, govern with smart policy, have a conversation about the tradeoffs between good policy and popular electoral moderation. The Dems have shown a fair amount of political courage. Their climate efforts were not particularly popular, but they did them because the caucus had a pretty broad consensus that it was a challenge they needed to step up to in some way. Sean Casten of (IL-6) and Brian Schatz (HI) both had some illuminating things to say about that on twitter. When the ACA passed, some Dem reps lost their re-election. They were very much aware of the risk of voting for health care reform. And when they lost, at least one of them indicated that they had no regrets, because the issue was that important.
Fascism is worth opposing, and if opposing it means emulating Jared Golden, I’m all for it, customized for each district.
ETA: transplant Dem policies to any other high income democracy and they would be comfortably center-right.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4501 "2025-09-02T21:11:54Z")
[British wife of Trump voter detained and facing deportation after 37 years in US](https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/british-wife-of-trump-voter-detained-and-facing-deportation-after-37-years-in-us/ar-AA1LIFgd)
> Now her husband, James Brown, said he now “100 per cent” regrets voting for Trump, effectively ensuring his wife being booted out of the States. “You look at the news, and they’re not telling the truth about what’s actually happening to a lot of legal immigrants,” he said.
Oh, you poor summer child. If only you had been warned that this would happen!
🐊 💧
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### Author:  [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4502 "2025-09-02T21:27:57Z")
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4503 "2025-09-02T21:30:50Z")
From the husband of the detained legal immigrant:
> “Trump advertised that he was getting criminal illegal immigrants and deporting them, which I don’t disagree with. But that’s not what he’s doing,” said Brown. “There are hundreds, maybe thousands, who are being arrested who are legal immigrants in this country. And the entire foundation of America was founded on immigration. So now we’re saying that nobody who’s not native born should be allowed in this country.”
Yes sir. That is _exactly_ the plan. Only native born US citizens. Unless they’re billionaires and/or personally known or useful to the cult leader.
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### Author:  [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4504 "2025-09-02T21:33:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Only native born US citizens.
At first.
Then, only _white_ native born US citizens.
Then, only _Christian_ white native born US citizens.
Then, only _Protestant_ white native born US citizens.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4505 "2025-09-02T21:43:36Z")
Yes.
Somewhere in there anyone with Jewish ancestry will be declared non-citizens and deported to Israel, sort of but not quite like what happened Vichy, France.
Not entirely sure if they’ll keep some of the people recent African descent or send them elsewhere (Africa, Carribean, South America are all possibilities)
Not sure when/how the Asian-Americans will be removed. All sent back to CHYE-nyuh regardless of actual ethnic origins.
Alternatively - some darker-than-White people might be allowed to stay if they’re willing to accept second-class citizenship and convert to the “proper” version of Christianity. Because someone has to do the grubby jobs the lily-White can’t be soiled with.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4506 "2025-09-02T22:10:03Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Alternatively - some darker-than-White people might be allowed to stay if they’re willing to accept second-class citizenship
R. Cobb, 1968
[ ](https://imgur.com/ylLBsJv)
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4507 "2025-09-03T00:05:11Z")
The British woman, 59, immigrated to the US when she was 11. She is married to a US citizen. She committed a misdemeanor 10 years ago, which is the basis of the deportation.
Deporting someone like that is ridiculous, and deporting thousands like that is bad for the economy and cruel besides, which of course is the point.
I thought the husband showed poor judgment last November but characterized the situation fairly well and moreover fairly persuasively.
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### Author:  [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4508 "2025-09-03T00:10:33Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Not entirely sure if they’ll keep some of the people recent African descent or send them elsewhere (Africa, Carribean, South America are all possibilities)
Since deporting recent African-Americans would mean deporting Obama, they’re definitiely not staying.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4509 "2025-09-03T00:16:23Z")
Sorry, I was unclear.
By “recent” I mean within the past roughly 400 years as opposed to people whose ancestors left African 20,000 or more years ago.
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### Author:  [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4510 "2025-09-03T00:20:09Z")
Nah, fuck that guy. He’s going to continue to vote R, trust me.
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### Author:  [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4511 "2025-09-03T00:23:25Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> By “recent” I mean within the past roughly 400 years
Oh, most of those would stay. Someone has to pick the cotton…
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4512 "2025-09-03T01:10:02Z")
_Insert LBJ quote here._
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### Author:  [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4513 "2025-09-03T01:47:50Z")
> [@Zoobi](#):
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> Nah, fuck that guy. He’s going to continue to vote R, trust me.
I don’t think I will trust you on that. Plenty of Americans swing their votes and the great majority of Americans are not political obsessives. So their support for either side is inherently soft.
The shift to Trump in 2024 was _very_ broad geographically. Red districts, blue districts, purple districts - the overwhelming majority shifted towards Trump relative to 2020. You can posit any number of explanations for an electoral outcome, but US results are broadly in line with international patterns, suggesting that voters pinned the 2022-23 surge of inflation on incumbent parties.
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### Author:  [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4514 "2025-09-03T01:57:51Z")
Jeff Crank gets cranky. (after getting a leopard’s bite)
[Republican Representative for Colorado Springs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado%2527s_5th_congressional_district) now finds out that one of the biggest employers in his city (Space Command) is moving out to go to Alabama.
Of course, Trump wanted to punish Colorado; but as always, Trump does not care if the leopard will eat the face of a supporter and enabler in this case.
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