# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4555 "2025-09-08T06:21:56Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> @Measure_for_Measure has a larger point that there are only a few futures open to MAGA members as we eventually right the ship of state. they can die, they can self-deport, or they change their behaviors (and ideally, beliefs) to something more civilized.
Judging from history they won’t change; they’ll remain utterly intransigent for the rest of their lives. The Right is _never_ persuaded, only coerced (desegregation), worked around (same sex marriage) or killed (Civil War).
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4556 "2025-09-08T10:59:20Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Irish grandmother who’s lived in the US for more than 40 years is in custody because of a $25 bad check 10 years ago; she and her husband voted for Trump. I say fry ‘em both.
When Trump said he would deport all criminal immigrants most of his followers heard “deport immigrants guilty of serious crimes”
What Trump said - and he meant - was “Deport all immigrants who criminals”, that is, have ever broken any law, ever.
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### Author:  [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4557 "2025-09-08T11:35:06Z")
I suspect the real problem is not so much that Trump meant to (or wanted to) deport all immigrants who have broken any law ever. The problem is that Trump got elected (in significant part) by promising to protect people from a non-existent serious criminal immigrant problem.
Trump undoubtedly has a strong personal reality distortion field and he and his ultra-loyalist minions live in it. Consequently after he was elected when he told his minions they were to solve the non-existent problem they had to find a way to make it exist.
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### Author:  [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4558 "2025-09-08T11:55:09Z")
Oh heck, I grabbed the wrong article. I meant to grab the one that Mr. Smith subsequently referenced.
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### Author:  [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4559 "2025-09-08T12:39:48Z")
They probably also heard ‘deport plenty of people that don’t look/sound like me as long as they’re not my family/friends/people I rely upon in some way.’
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4560 "2025-09-08T12:42:34Z")
It all boils down to whether Trump is “hurting the right people”.
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### Author:  [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4561 "2025-09-08T13:11:50Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Oh heck, I grabbed the wrong article. I meant to grab the one that Mr. Smith subsequently referenced.
FWIW, I think that twitter screenshot (which cites no source) got several details wrong and is referring to the same woman.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4562 "2025-09-08T13:12:55Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> If _she_ voted for Trum
Don’t believe the article indicated that she voted for Trump, but of course her husband did.
I’m wondering why she never attempted to obtain American citizenship. I know it’s somewhat of a hassle, but still…
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4563 "2025-09-08T13:16:23Z")
There was a very awkward silence when I asked my brother and sister (both MAGA and married to even more MAGA) if my wife and daughter were disappeared as Chinese spies (my wife was born and raised in China emigrated after university, my daughter was born in China and adopted as an infant) how long it would take him to go from
“Oh my God! That’s awful. Must be some kind of bureaucratic mix up.”
to
“How could you [MightyMouse] have been unaware of their espionage activities? They were talking to Chinese people every week and frequently traveling to China.”
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### Author:  [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4564 "2025-09-08T13:19:46Z")
Don’t kid yourself. They probably already believe door #2.
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### Author:  [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4565 "2025-09-08T13:22:00Z")
Yeah, I think they’re conflating it with the Irish woman from Kentucky grabbed by immigration earlier this year, who was eventually freed.
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### Author:  [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4566 "2025-09-08T15:15:38Z")
> [@Railer13](#):
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> I’m wondering why she never attempted to obtain American citizenship. I know it’s somewhat of a hassle, but still…
That’s another one of those things where US Citizenship and Immigration Services, besides already making it a PITA to get into the immigrant-to-citizen track, made a big deal even “in the Before Times” that ANY run-in with the law could jeopardize your status. So some people were deterred while the enforcers mostly looked the other way, “reserving the right to” in case you caused trouble. But the de-facto position was if you kept out of _major_ trouble, green card status was good enough to go on living and working like you belong here.
No more.
(But, let’s be frank, for the last 60 years how much did we hear anyone complaining about Canadians/Irish/Brits/Scandinavians/etc. living and working in the USA w/o assimilating?)
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### Author:  [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4567 "2025-09-08T15:18:59Z")
My guess is the same paragraph.
Actually I’ll amend that- they’ll start at the second sentence.
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### Author:  [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4568 "2025-09-08T16:06:35Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But, let’s be frank, for the last 60 years how much did we hear anyone complaining about Canadians/Irish/Brits/Scandinavians/etc. living and working in the USA w/o assimilating?
Not much - but to be fair, the Canadians, Irish and Brits don’t need to assimilate all that much as they are English speaking. I’ve actually heard plenty of complaints in the past 60 years about non-assimilation regarding Poles, Russians, Serbs/Croats, Italians, Albanians, Romanians and so on. And this is/was in a neighborhood where the people complaining were of Polish, Serbian,Italian, etc descent. Some were immigrants themselves , complaining about people from their homeland who didn’t assimilate - by which they mostly meant “learn to speak English”.
I think a good part of the reason ( although it’s not the whole reason) there weren’t more widespread complaints is because 1) Most people in most parts of the US don’t even realize there are people living and working in the US illegally who are white and speak English and 2) There are only a relatively few places in the US where multiple ethnicities can survive without speaking English. There has to be a certain critical mass of speakers to find bakeries, doctor’s offices, hairstylists, butchers etc with signs stating that Polish or Italian or German or … is spoken here. If two Bengali-speaking families move into a neighborhood or town, they aren’t going to be able to manage long without someone learning enough English to get by but if two Polish speaking households join 15K other Polish speaking households, they absolutely will be able to manage without learning English.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4569 "2025-09-08T19:03:41Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (But, let’s be frank, for the last 60 years how much did we hear anyone complaining about Canadians/Irish/Brits/Scandinavians/etc. living and working in the USA w/o assimilating?)
60 years? We heard a _lot_ about Germans not assimilating, to the point that German-American culture was systemically destroyed and erased. Right down to street names being changed, people changing their names to be more “American”, and not teaching or speaking German anymore. They went from one of the major American subcultures to being effectively nonexistent. And deliberately forgotten.
Which is an important thing for leopard-voting people to keep in mind; your skin color won’t keep you from being targeted if the leopards decide _you_ are one of “them” instead of “us”.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4570 "2025-09-08T19:19:01Z")
nvm; prolly missed the point.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4571 "2025-09-08T19:47:17Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> We heard a _lot_ about Germans not assimilating
Certainly earlier, during both World Wars, but since 1965? Don’t think so, but maybe you can provide examples.
My pacifistic Mennonite ancestors spoke German for a generation, but WWI forced them to abandon that language except in church. WWII forced even German sermons to disappear. But since then, there’s been little, if any, repercussion from anything Germanic.
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### Author:  [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4572 "2025-09-08T20:35:12Z")
> [@Railer13](#):
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> Certainly earlier, during both World Wars, but since 1965? Don’t think so, but maybe you can provide examples.
The entire point is that entire culture was erased; there’s nothing significant left to make examples _of._ As is standard with fully suppressed groups they’ve been erased from history and public consciousness. You might as well ask me for modern examples of Roman oppression of Carthage.
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### Author:  [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4573 "2025-09-08T20:44:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The entire point is that entire culture was erased
But would that have happened without the World Wars?
> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> As is standard with fully suppressed groups they’ve been erased from history and public consciousness
Native Americans are still very much alive, if not well. Now, you can probably give many, many examples of subcultures that have disappeared. But it doesn’t happen to all.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [September 8, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4574 "2025-09-08T23:51:02Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> > [@Pleonast](#):
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> > Mocking those who don’t meet your orthographic standards is not a good look.
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> Who cares? These people are howl-at-the-moon stupid. I wouldn’t mind them being so if they had not gotten this country into the greatest crisis in a century. Why be nice about it?
_‘We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.’_ – Heinrich Heine
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