# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")
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### Author: ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4615 "2025-09-10T19:36:18Z")

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I sincerely hope he recovers. I also hope he reflects on these words of his from 2023.

Charlie Kirk: “You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won’t have a single gun death … I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

ETA: the full quote because it’s a little fairer than the shortened one I had originally

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### Author: ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4616 "2025-09-10T19:39:29Z")

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Orange Ape: "We must all pray for Charlie Kirk, who has been shot. A great guy from top to bottom.”

I didn’t know Charlie Kirk was versatile.

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4617 "2025-09-10T20:01:57Z")

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“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational” — Charlie Kirk, April 2023

“Gurgle, gurgle.” — Charlie Kirk, September, 2025

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### Author: ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4618 "2025-09-10T20:04:25Z")

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Hey! You made me blow something out my nose!

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### Author: ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4619 "2025-09-10T20:15:21Z")

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More dark humor:

> **[Anti-Vaxxer Finally Gets Shot](https://thehardtimes.net/culture/anti-vaxxer-finally-gets-shot/)**
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> Conservative activist and noted anti-vaxxer Charlie Kirk finally received a shot while delivering a speech in front of brainwashed students at Utah Valley University earlier today.

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4620 "2025-09-10T20:19:52Z")

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I thought it interesting his _real_ last word before being shot was “violence”.

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### Author: ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4621 "2025-09-10T21:01:41Z")

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Kirk has passed away. The man they arrested as the prime suspect is not the shooter. I guess this means the shooter is still at large…

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4622 "2025-09-10T21:18:19Z")

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Well at least it was an easy death. Not like polio or small pox or something.

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### Author: ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4623 "2025-09-10T21:43:50Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Last year there were 1.8 million farms in the US. A lot more than a few players.

If you dig into the details, the vast majority of those 1.8 M produce little or no food. Here’s a gift link to an analysis that says the number of productive farms (more than $100,000 gross income) is less than 400,000:

> **[A quarter of America’s “farms” aren’t really farms](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/460046/usda-census-two-million-farms?view_token=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6IjA0dG05MDdPNGoiLCJwIjoiL2Z1dHVyZS1wZXJmZWN0LzQ2MDA0Ni91c2RhLWNlbnN1cy10d28tbWlsbGlvbi1mYXJtcyIsImV4cCI6MTc1ODc0OTk0NCwiaWF0IjoxNzU3NTQwMzQ0fQ.qcgsZY4a7Eabb6_dU4dTPZ5EcT6kA2ab7CFO8qoQ4TE&utm_medium=gift-link)**
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> The misleading government statistic that distorts food and farming policy, explained.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4624 "2025-09-10T21:50:41Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Here’s a gift link to an analysis that says the number of productive farms (more than $100,000 gross income) is less than 400,000:

Thanks for that…interesting analysis.

Still, my point remains. 400,000 is a heckuva lot more players than 2 or 3.

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### Author: ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4625 "2025-09-10T21:52:17Z")

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Yeah. I have a cousin in law who has a suburban house with an elderly goat being mistreated by being stored in an 8’x8’ pen. Due to the zoning of his house, that goat makes it legally a farm and he gets all sorts of tax breaks and subsidies and stuff.

Until the goat dies; then he needs to get another goat. Fortunately, they’re cheap.

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### Author: ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4626 "2025-09-10T22:28:04Z")

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“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that has done a lot of damage”. — Charlie Kirk

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### Author: ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4627 "2025-09-11T00:25:42Z")

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Was going to bring up the empathy quote. Y’know what, sorry, Charlie but having known loss I choose to be empathetic towards your family.

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### Author: ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4628 "2025-09-11T02:11:33Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> sorry, Charlie

My “Going to hell” thought of the day:

Leopards complain that [today’s face is awfully small](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/pe2fb8/is_charlie_kirks_face_really_this_small_vote_now/).

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### Author: ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4629 "2025-09-11T02:42:23Z")

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The University of Utah changed gun policy last may.

> **[New rules for firearms on campus - @theU](https://attheu.utah.edu/facultystaff/new-rules-for-concealed-weapons-on-campus/)**
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> In order to carry a firearm on campus, a person must obtain a Concealed Carry Permit (CCP) from the State of Utah.

> Under the changes in [HB 128](https://le.utah.gov/~2025/bills/static/HB0128.html), which went into effect on May 7, individuals who are 18 years old or older and have a current Utah concealed weapon permit (CWP) may carry a weapon on campus, including in an “open” fashion
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> “Our highest priority is preserving public safety on campus,” said Keith Squires, chief safety officer.

Red Utah has been an open or “constitutional carry” state since 2021.

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### Author: ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4630 "2025-09-11T04:14:39Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [quoting Chlarie Kirk]
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> I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.

That really needs to be carved on his tomb stone. In fact would argue that this day was the closest that the erroneous notion that the second amendment protects us from tyranny has come to being accurate since the assassination of Huey Long (90 years ago almost to the).

Far more often it seems that those who fall to “2nd amendment solutions” are those who are safe guarding rights.

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### Author: ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> That really needs to be carved on his tomb stone.

I was think exactly that: it should be his epitaph.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4632 "2025-09-11T04:23:26Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Red Utah has been an open or “constitutional carry” state since 2021.

Well, you know that the solution to gun shootings is… to have more guns freely available to more people.

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### Author: ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4633 "2025-09-11T04:24:09Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> My “Going to hell” thought of the day:

“He lost the gun debate”

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#### Post date: [September 11, 2025, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4634 "2025-09-11T04:24:37Z")

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I think the question is… was Chuck carrying? Maybe he’d have had a chance if he had been!

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