# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4675 "2025-10-05T01:13:06Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> For the rest, I don’t think hydrogen is the answer. It’s a dangerous fuel, as explosive as gasoline fumes.

Actually gasoline fumes _aren’t_ all that explosive outside of Hollywood films, and hydrogen isn’t really that dangerous. Less dangerous than many other fuels in fact, since its extreme lightness means that burning hydrogen goes rapidly straight up instead of spreading. As spectacular as the Hindenburg disaster was, 62 out of the 97 onboard survived.

If anything the biggest problem with hydrogen is that it’s hard to contain and hard to condense, so it’s bulky. Hydrogen powered ships are probably the most practical just because bulkiness doesn’t matter that much with them.

As for oil, eventually we’ll stop using just because it’ll run out.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4676 "2025-10-11T12:13:48Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Don’t get me wrong. I’m enthusiastic about renewable energy, but it’s much more efficient to use the energy directly rather than electrolyze water and then use the hydrogen.

Cool. I have electricity. Show me how to use it directly to make ammonia. Or SAF. Or DRI. Or how to store it for a year cheaper than with batteries. Or how to sell it to Japan. Or how to use it for hydrocracking.

We currently make about 100 million tons of hydrogen a year without any new applications.

Yes it’s probably dumb to put in my car but PNWH2 wasn’t looking at that.

You have access here to people with phds who work in this area and who actually know something about this topic. You can ask question and are not forced to post whatever that was.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4677 "2025-10-14T15:12:21Z")

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from the Washington Post on Republican attempts to gut Obamacare:

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> Longtime Florida insurance agent Alan Reynolds, 65, predicts many of his customers will allow their policies to lapse when the price hikes become clear. An independent who leans conservative, Reynolds, of Port St. Lucie, called the Affordable Care Act flawed but said he favors the continuation of the enhanced subsidies “and not pulling the rug out from under people.”
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> His family is also affected. The loss of his wife’s subsidy means she is likely to pay about $1,200 or more each month, up from about $500 in 2024, he said. “I voted for Trump,” Reynolds said. “I didn’t expect this.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4678 "2025-10-14T15:48:10Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “I voted for Trump,” Reynolds said. “I didn’t expect this.”

Be fair! How could he expect it if _nobody in the country_ was saying that it would happen? Oh, wait…

🐆

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4679 "2025-10-14T15:53:01Z")

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As long as they promise that others he hates will suffer even worse, he’ll vote for MAGA again.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4680 "2025-10-14T17:11:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “I voted for Trump,” Reynolds said. “I didn’t expect this.”

Could there be a more pure LEFP comment?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4681 "2025-10-14T17:29:23Z")

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Leopard’s Eating Faces People? Splitters, all of them!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4682 "2025-10-14T18:17:07Z")

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Looks like my wifes common blood thinner Rx will increase x10.

Surprise!! Thanks asshole.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4683 "2025-10-14T22:45:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > His family is also affected. The loss of his wife’s subsidy means she is likely to pay about $1,200 or more each month, up from about $500 in 2024, he said. “I voted for Trump,” Reynolds said. “I didn’t expect this.”

Every single time I hear this sentiment echoed by a Trump supporter I want to scream, “What the fuck did you _think_ was going to happen?” I suspect the most common response will be as follows:

1. I didn’t think.
2. I didn’t think this would happen to me.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4684 "2025-10-14T23:24:04Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> 1. I didn’t think.
> 2. I didn’t think this would happen to me.

1. What are think?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4685 "2025-10-15T00:36:46Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> What are think?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vzuXqzdYmTQ/hqdefault.jpg "BRAIN & BRAIN...WHAT IS BRAIN") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuXqzdYmTQ)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4686 "2025-10-15T01:46:48Z")

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That is exactly what I thought of.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4687 "2025-10-16T23:15:31Z")

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Ten years ago _today:_

> <https://x.com/Cavalorn/status/654934442549620736?t=nI335fGOXNOaiWxjbPUP1Q&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4688 "2025-10-17T21:04:51Z")

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Thanks, Adrian Bott.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4689 "2025-10-23T19:42:37Z")

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Michigan just announced SNAP benefits (food assistance for low-income residents) will be halting in November due to no federal funding. Apparently the state govt was told this by the feds, so yep. No groceries for you rural MAGAs (and there are a lot of them) who need help.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4690 "2025-10-23T20:03:29Z")

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Krugman addressed the way trump is screwing over his rural worshippers today in his Substack (free to subscribe). He hints that they may be starting to see the light. (If only.)

> **[Argentina and Rural America’s Awakening](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/argentina-and-rural-americas-awakening?source=queue)**
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> Suddenly, Trump’s contempt for his base is showing

> Is rural America starting to fall out of love with Donald Trump?
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> Policy wonks like me have spent decades pointing out that if rural Americans voted based on their informed self-interest, they would be supporting Democrats, not Republicans. Republicans are constantly trying to eviscerate Democrat-supported programs that benefited rural states like Medicaid spending, SNAP (the supplementary nutrition program formerly known as food stamps), and school lunches. Trump is also cutting subsidies for green energy programs like solar farms and wind turbines – subsidies that [disproportionately went to red states](https://www.eenews.net/articles/trump-attack-on-green-energy-projects-hits-republican-districts/). Iowa gets [63 percent](https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=IA) of its electricity from wind!
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> …
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> Yet economic self-interest has been swamped by “[rural consciousness](https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/P/bo22879533.html).” This consciousness rests on a belief that highly educated urban elites don’t understand or value rural culture and rural lives.
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> The attempt by Trump and Scott Bessent, the Treasury secretary, to rush $20 billion to Argentina isn’t a big deal compared with the planned savage cuts to crucial programs. But it’s a graphic demonstration of the administration’s hypocrisy.
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> Furthermore, from farmers’ point of view, Argentina is a rival — a big soybean exporter at a time when Trump’s trade war has locked our own farmers out of China’s market.
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> And as emphasized in a [recent conversation](https://newrepublic.com/article/202100/transcript-maga-farmers-suddenly-shocked-trump-screwing-badly) between Greg Sargent and a rural Democratic activist, farmers have been shocked and outraged by Trump’s casual suggestion that he might start buying Argentine beef to sell in the U.S. market.  
> …

That’s probably all I can legitimately quote. But read the rest of it.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4691 "2025-10-23T21:50:09Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> farmers have been shocked and outraged by Trump’s casual suggestion that he might start buying Argentine beef to sell in the U.S. market.

First he stops USAID. One food market gone. Then he cuts sales to China. Two markets gone. Now he’s importing beef? WTF, chuck? It makes NO DAMN SENSE!

Probably still the dems’ fault. Somehow.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4692 "2025-10-23T21:51:23Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> It makes NO DAMN SENSE!

IOW, thoroughly consistent.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4693 "2025-10-23T23:17:11Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> It makes NO DAMN SENSE!

Of course it makes sense. If he can’t take a cut of some business, he tries to destroy it. By replacing it with a different business he can take a cut of.

Somehow he’ll make a buck off every pound of Argentine beef imported to the USA. That buck to him is the only thing that matters to him.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4694 "2025-10-24T22:21:38Z")

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I genuinely didn’t know that ginseng was grown in the United States. And their sole customer was China. Three guesses who they voted for in that county?

[https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-trade-spat-threatens-wisconsins-napa-valley-ginseng-2025-10-23/](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-trade-spat-threatens-wisconsins-napa-valley-ginseng-2025-10-23/)

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