# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 244
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4895 "2025-12-01T16:06:19Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > One feels for SimpleMindHatter, one really does. One just hopes (ha.) his ca. 100 shares bought him the proportional level of influence that the money-laundering Russians, Qataris and drug lords got, since ISTM that was the only real purpose of these ventures. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4896 "2025-12-01T16:19:15Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Trumpites who bought heavily into Trump-backed stock and bitcoin ventures have seen their investments [plummet in value](https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/donald-trump-djt-stock-crypto-slump-05b89b5b?mod=Searchresults&pos=1&page=1). Seriously, guys, learn how a pigeon drop works. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4897 "2025-12-02T10:21:59Z")
Well, the Republicans weren’t wrong, voter fraud does exist and immigrants are “taking jobs”. It’s just that in this case he’s a Republican who voted for Trump. > **[Republican mayor in Kansas facing deportation over voter fraud](https://heartlandsignal.com/2025/12/01/republican-mayor-in-kansas-facing-deportation-over-voter-fraud/)** > > Joe Ceballos, a longtime Republican and small-town mayor in Kansas, is facing felony voter fraud charges and possible deportation from the presidential administration he voted for. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4898 "2025-12-02T10:53:20Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Well, the Republicans weren’t wrong, voter fraud does exist and immigrants are “taking jobs” I started a thread about this last month. Hasn’t been updated in a while, however. > [@Kansas Mayor gets re-elected on Tuesday; charged with voter fraud on Wednesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-mayor-gets-re-elected-on-tuesday-charged-with-voter-fraud-on-wednesday/1024619): > > The thread title says it all. Coldwater, Kansas, is a town of about 700 in SW Kansas. The mayor, Jose Ceballos, was first elected in 2021, and he ran unopposed yesterday. He is a legal resident and applied for citizenship in February. That action probably got the attention of somebody, and now the Kansas AG, Kris Kobach, has charged him with 3 counts of voter fraud. In his typical grandstanding fashion, Kobach waited until the day after the election to file charges. Interestingly, this guy… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4899 "2025-12-02T10:55:30Z")
Sorry. Thanks for the info! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4900 "2025-12-02T11:03:13Z")
No worries! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4901 "2025-12-02T17:47:01Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Basically it is easy to get into a situation where consumers are simultaneously paying more while producers go broke. Especially if the middleman has been largely captured by near-monopolies. They tell the producers that they’re only going to pay so much for the cattle, and then turn around, and tell the consumers that the price of steaks is going up. If that middleman is the only game in town, what other options do you have? Stop producing beef, and stop buying it, is about it. Even if you decided, “Screw that, I’m starting my own slaughterhouse, with blackjack, and hookers!” the big companies can manipulate the market to destroy you. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4902 "2025-12-02T18:03:11Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Especially if the middleman has been largely captured by near-monopolies. They tell the producers that they’re only going to pay so much for the cattle, and then turn around, and tell the consumers that the price of steaks is going up. If that middleman is the only game in town, what other options do you have? Stop producing beef, and stop buying it, is about it. > > Even if you decided, “Screw that, I’m starting my own slaughterhouse, with blackjack, and hookers!” the big companies can manipulate the market to destroy you. It’s why there was a long tradition, especially in the upper Midwest, of farmers being pro-regulation, along with being anti-tariff. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4903 "2025-12-02T18:59:41Z")
If there’s a near monopoly anywhere along a supply chain, that entity(ies) can dictate irrational and/or unprofitable terms to the entire rest of the chain. The Pentagon buying weapons, Amazon buying first shipping services and now everything, Boeing (until recently) supplying airliners, “deregulated” utilities or those who’ve captured their regulator, Walmart in many ways. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4904 "2025-12-02T19:22:17Z")
The term is monopsony. That’s when there’s a single buyer for products and they can therefore dictate prices to the sellers. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4905 "2025-12-02T19:40:26Z")
Yep. IMO the terms monopoly and monopsony tend to be used for the far ends of a supply chain. Your local electrical utility has a monopoly on selling electricity locally and the US DoD has a monopsony on buying aircraft carriers in the USA. But the reality is that if you have enough vertical integration in middlemen, or enough consolidation of middlemen then you have a kink that segregates one single supply chain into two price-unrelated markets. e.g. … Archer Daniels Midland (ADM) can dictate their buying prices to farmers & local farmer coops, making ADM a monopsony buyer of e.g. grains in that upstream segment of the total farm-to-table supply chain. And meanwhile ADM can also act as a monopoly supplier of e.g. grain and grain products to the downstream market segment of millers, bakers, and packaged food manufacturers. I don’t know of a word that encompasses that dual monopsony/monopoly role. But boy howdy is it a profitable role once you settle into it. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4906 "2025-12-03T01:02:02Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I started a thread about this last month. Hasn’t been updated in a while, however. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Well, the Republicans weren’t wrong, voter fraud does exist and immigrants are “taking jobs”. It’s just that in this case he’s a Republican who voted for Trump. I congratulate you both on this excellent find. Delicious! ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4907 "2025-12-05T20:16:19Z")
> **[Somali-American who supported Trump in 2024 election calls president's...](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/republican-somali-american-trump-comments-reaction/)** > > Trump's comments, presented without evidence, have shaken people like Salman Fiqy, who saw an opportunity for the GOP to gain further ground in the Somali community. > In July of last year, Salman Fiqy stood front row behind President Trump during a [campaign rally](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/st-cloud-hotels-businesses-trump-supporters-arrive/) in St. Cloud, Minnesota. > > Fiqy, who first immigrated to the United States from Somalia in 2009, said he got the call from Mr. Trump’s campaign team to help drum up support for the Republican ahead of the general election. > > He said he was proud to do it. Now, as a [large-scale ICE operation against Somalis](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/live-updates/ice-somali-immigrants-minneapolis-st-paul/) in the Twin Cities begins, preceded by the president repeatedly making sweeping derogatory comments about Somalis, Fiqy’s support for the Republican Party is over. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4908 "2025-12-05T20:32:59Z")
Ooh, delicious, perfect example. Who would have thought a Somali supporting a racist White supremacist party was a bad idea? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4909 "2025-12-05T20:42:07Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > Fiqy’s support for the Republican Party is over. (that’s a quote from the CBS news article) This bit is somewhat unusual for these newly faceless folks, though. Usually, they’re more like “Sure, I have no face now, but Democrats want to force me to be trans, so I can’t vote for them.” ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4910 "2025-12-05T20:52:04Z")
Oh trust me, they will support Republicans again. Words are cheap. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4911 "2025-12-05T20:54:13Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > Oh trust me, they will support Republicans again. Words are cheap Sadly, you are probably right. 🤮 ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4912 "2025-12-05T20:56:12Z")
Gonna be difficult for the deported Somalians to support the Rs from their new location in El Salvador on the way back to Somalia. But good bet they’ll have tears in their eyes when they think of old trumperooni. And they won’t be tears of joy. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4913 "2025-12-05T22:12:26Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > on the way back to Somalia. How optimistic of you! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/4914 "2025-12-05T22:49:33Z")
Fuck him. He had no problem supporting hate until he personally was on the receiving end. Fuck that guy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=245)