# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 250
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5015 "2026-02-22T04:18:22Z")
“I mean, people say I voted for this… but I didn’t vote for THIS!” Aw, his Cuban born partner, who prayed for Trump to win, has been in detention for 8 months. Just what did they think “MASS DEPORTATION NOW!” meant? Oh, that’s right, other people getting hurt. > ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5016 "2026-02-22T10:40:14Z")
As usual, you can truncate the quote at “We didn’t think” without any loss of content. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5017 "2026-02-22T10:50:13Z")
Thinking is Woke, don’t you know. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5018 "2026-02-22T12:23:38Z")
Wishful thinking is a part of all politics. Where folks get their country into trouble is when wishful willful non-thinking takes over. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5019 "2026-02-22T21:17:31Z")
Wokethink, some might call it. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5020 "2026-02-23T01:24:16Z")
“Leopards eating **countries’** faces…” > # They Did Deals With Trump to Get Lower Tariffs. Now They Are Stuck. > > Countries that under the threat of tariffs made commitments like enormous investment pledges face the reality that they might have been better off waiting. > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/22/business/trump-tariffs-japan-indonesia.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.OVA.4JG6.nbY9SBwHEmYO&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/22/business/trump-tariffs-japan-indonesia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.OVA.4JG6.nbY9SBwHEmYO&smid=url-share) It’s its own kind of clusterfuck. > It started as a week of trade wins for President Trump. > > On Tuesday, [Japan](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/business/japan-trump-investments.html) committed $36 billion in investments in the United States, and on Thursday, the president of [Indonesia](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/20/business/trump-tariffs-indonesia.html) signed a deal in Washington to open up critical sectors of the country’s economy to American companies. > > The moves were part of trade deals both countries had signed under the threat of huge tariffs, unlike anything they had faced in modern times — up to 35 percent in Japan’s case and 32 percent for Indonesia. Mr. Trump hailed the developments as signs that the United States was “WINNING again.” > > But by the end of the week, it was no longer clear who, if anyone, was winning. > … ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5021 "2026-02-23T22:30:33Z")
New Jersey couple supported Trump, then ICE caught up to the husband. [https://www.nj.com/mosaic/2026/02/this-nj-trump-voters-husband-was-detained-by-ice-i-thought-theyd-focus-on-criminals.html](https://www.nj.com/mosaic/2026/02/this-nj-trump-voters-husband-was-detained-by-ice-i-thought-theyd-focus-on-criminals.html) > [@](#): > > “To think we were MAGA!" Sandra proclaimed. The couple even attended a Trump rally in Las Vegas in 2020. > > Sandra voted for President Trump three times, believing enforcement would focus on people with criminal records — not individuals like her husband. > > Asked what she would say to him now, she paused. > > “You said you were going after the worst of the worst, but instead you ruined our life,” she said." ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5022 "2026-02-23T23:24:19Z")
But your husband IS a criminal. He entered this country illegally which is a crime./MAGAthink ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2026, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5023 "2026-02-23T23:45:01Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > He entered this country illegally which is a crime./MAGAthink Except he had a work permit. He hired an attorney to help him get a green card, but the attorney was running an immigration fraud scheme, and the guy didn’t know he had a hearing scheduled. So yeah. ICE detains a non-criminal, as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5024 "2026-02-24T00:15:21Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “To think we were MAGA!" Sandra proclaimed. Yeah, imagine. 🫩 ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5025 "2026-02-24T00:53:44Z")
The man’s name is "Abdellatif Hafraoui.” And he’s brown. Therefore it is technically impossible for him to be “American.” /MAGAthink The fact that he’s been in the country for 38 years and by all evidence has been a law abiding, tax paying citizen the entire time, and has been going through the immigration process legally to the best of his ability is all irrelevant. When are people going to realize that MAGA “immigration policy” is just racism given a barely existent veneer of law? It’s being ran by Stephen Miller. It couldn’t possibly be otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5026 "2026-02-24T01:20:58Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > When are people going to realize that MAGA “immigration policy” is just racism given a barely existent veneer of law? 1. The 12th of Never 2. When it happens to them Choose one. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5027 "2026-02-24T02:04:19Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Except he had a work permit. Work permits don’t mean shit. Respectfully. Anyway, fuck this guy. Voting for MAGA is a lot worse than a lot of actual crimes. Of course he didn’t vote himself, but he clearly endorsed his wife!s decision to do so. Three fucking times. He and she both deserve all the misery they’re going to get, and a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5028 "2026-02-24T03:36:26Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Work permits don’t mean shit. A work permit means he was legally entitled to work in this country. > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Anyway, fuck this guy. Voting for MAGA is a lot worse than a lot of actual crimes. Of course he didn’t vote himself, but he clearly endorsed his wife!s decision to do so. Three fucking times. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5029 "2026-02-24T04:20:30Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > A work permit means he was legally entitled to work in this country. Which doesn’t mean shit. It doesn’t mean he was legally present. It doesn’t mean he arrived legally. People need to understand this so that they understand who in their life is vulnerable (or, to the case at bar, if _they_ are vulnerable and should maybe STFU about their love from MAGA). ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5030 "2026-02-24T05:06:51Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Which doesn’t mean shit. It doesn’t mean he was legally present. It doesn’t mean he arrived legally. People need to understand this so that they understand who in their life is vulnerable (or, to the case at bar, if _they_ are vulnerable and should maybe STFU about their love from MAGA). I’m not an expert on immigration, but it’s always been my impression that one cannot get any kind of work authorization here in the United States if you’re not in some sort of valid immigration status. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5031 "2026-02-24T13:05:23Z")
Yeah, I’m not sure what they’re on about there. It’s often a standard question when applying for a job, too. “Do you have legal authorization to work in the US?” or something similar, which covers citizens, legal residents, and people who are present on work visas. If they meant that in practice it doesn’t mean a lot, maybe there’s an argument. But instead, the post as stated indicates it doesn’t matter in practice or in theory, which approaches “that’s such a bizarre take, it’s not even wrong” levels of head-scratchery. Maybe time for more (or less) coffee/alcohol/mind-expanding(contracting) substances. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5032 "2026-02-24T13:28:21Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > If they meant that in practice it doesn’t mean a lot, maybe there’s an argument. But instead, the post as stated indicates it doesn’t matter in practice or in theory, which approaches “that’s such a bizarre take, it’s not even wrong” levels of head-scratchery. I suspect it makes sense to someone who has bought into the “immigrants are stealing our jobs” rhetoric of the Right. The “logic” being that if he had a work permit he wasn’t "stealing, while ignoring that it _is and always was_ about skin color, not jobs. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5033 "2026-02-24T14:28:09Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > “Do you have legal authorization to work in the US?” or something similar, which covers citizens, legal residents, and people who are present on work visas. Work visas are different from employment authorizations - a work visa allows you to enter the US, usually for a particular job. Employment authorizations are for people who are already in the US and include applicants for asylum , who often didn’t arrive legally and may have been in the US for months without legal status before applying for asylum. In fact, I’m pretty sure you cannot apply for asylum from outside the US. ( It’s refugee status for people applying from outside the US) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5034 "2026-02-24T14:40:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > It’s often a standard question when applying for a job, too. “Do you have legal authorization to work in the US?” or something similar, which covers citizens, legal residents, and people who are present on work visas. > > If they meant that in practice it doesn’t mean a lot, maybe there’s an argument. As @doreen noted, work authorization (an Employment Authorization Document, officially Form I-766) is not the same as a work visa. A work visa _does_ confer legal presence in the US. An EAD, by itself, means nothing of the sort. Where I am coming at this from is as an immigration attorney who is tired of seeing how these kinds of misperceptions about what various government \*documents do or do not mean causes people to misunderstand their own status and the status of loved ones. This can lead to taking risks that they really shouldn’t, like flying home for Thanksgiving or driving through interior CBP checkpoints in the border region, in which case I really hate to see such people swept up and deported. Or to put up a wall inside their head where they think “it’s not me, it’a not my family” and so remain either indifferent to or, worse, actively support the Trump regime’s fascist agenda. They think they or their loved one are safe because he’s got “a work permit” and _surely_ that must mean something, right? It _must_ mean he’s here legally. I think if more people understood how many of their “safe” friends and neighbors are nothing of the sort, fewer would support what Trump is doing. So I’ll say it again: a work permit don’t mean shit. \*Another example: people who file an application for some kind of immigration status and think the nice, official-looking receipt notice will protect them from ICE. Two years ago, depending on the application, it might have. But that was solely a matter of prosecutorial discretion under the Biden admin. One of the first things Trump did was cancel those policies that directed agents and immigration prosecutors to exercise discretion to not initiate or maintain removal proceedings against large swathes of the population. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=249) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=251)