# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 257
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5155 "2026-04-01T18:05:41Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t see anyone in the MAGA-Republican world who has the audacity to ignore the constitution, ignore Judges’ rulings, ignore world opinion and pick up where trump leaves off (soon, I hope). I’m normally an optimist, but something nags at the back of my head. Remember, Trump 1.0 didn’t have the audacity to ignore the constitution, ignore judges rulings, etc. It really is Trump 2.0 that fully embraced the “What if we didn’t…” ethos. And I will state again, the worst thing that Donald Trump has done to this country is make it OK to be an asshole. I’m more than willing to debate actual policy with conservatives, but Trump gets in front of his followers and makes fun of the handicapped and trans and Gold Star parents and keeps punching down, and if he can do that then I can, too. No, America wasn’t perfect in 2016, but we had made great strides. Then Trump started holding his rallies and saying it was OK to hate people who were different from you. And it will take us decades to get back from that. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5156 "2026-04-01T18:50:27Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Go ahead and believe it but remember a majority of US voters thought Trumpism was just fine. Wrong. Trump has not gotten a popular vote majority in any general election. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5157 "2026-04-01T18:54:25Z")
For certain values of “just fine”, I agree. That’s everyone who was able to vote but didn’t vote for Kamala (i.e. didn’t vote at all even though there were no impediments, or registered a “protest vote”). They were okay enough with Trumpism to not do the most effective thing to combat it. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5158 "2026-04-01T18:56:17Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5159 "2026-04-01T18:57:41Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > Wrong. Trump has not gotten a popular vote majority in any general election. > **[2024 United States presidential election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election)** > > Joe Biden > Democratic > Donald Trump > Republican ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5160 "2026-04-01T18:58:44Z")
And it says there right in the box: Percentage **49.8%** [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#cite_note-fec-2) 48.3%[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#cite_note-fec-2) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5161 "2026-04-01T18:58:50Z")
@74westy : as that cite shows, Trump received 49.8% of the popular vote in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5162 "2026-04-01T18:58:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Complete _non-sequitur_. And not compelling examples. Might as well include the Pope How about the USSR? Stalin routinely purged anyone he thought was a threat to his power, so no one wanted to stand out while he was alive. But after he died, they did have a new leader, and the system continued for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5163 "2026-04-01T19:00:14Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > That’s everyone who was able to vote but didn’t vote for Kamala (i.e. didn’t vote at all even though there were no impediments, or registered a “protest vote”). But this doesn’t tell us anything overall about the character of the average American relative to elsewhere, because other countries make it easier to vote, and make it easier to vote for third parties in a meaningful way, and far right parties manage to get more than half the vote percents that Trump got in a lot of countries. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5164 "2026-04-01T19:01:49Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I don’t see anyone in the MAGA-Republican world who has the audacity to ignore the constitution, ignore Judges’ rulings, ignore world opinion and pick up where trump leaves off (soon, I hope). Vance? Cruz? Miller? No way. Not to be snarky, but didn’t Vance support Jan 6? (and I assume Miller as well but I honestly don’t know). And would that be considered “ignoring the constitution”? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5165 "2026-04-01T19:08:15Z")
In a desperate effort to move past the doomism and back to voters seeing their faces eaten: > **[Trump’s Approval on Voters’ Biggest Issue Plunges to All-Time Low](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-approval-on-voters-biggest-issue-plunges-to-all-time-low/)** > > Recent polling shows increasing numbers of Americans are questioning whether his administration is addressing their financial concerns. > Americans are as bearish as ever on Trump’s handling of the economy, which is now experiencing [spiking gas prices](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-faces-fresh-self-inflicted-crisis-as-gas-surges-over-4/) in addition to grocery costs that [remain as high](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-key-affordability-claim-on-beef-prices-gets-blown-out-of-the-water/) as they were when the issue of affordability elevated him back to the White House in 2024. > > A [CNN/SSRS poll](https://us.cnn.com/2026/04/01/politics/cnn-poll-trump-approval-rating-economy) conducted last week found that just 31 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the economy—the lowest it has been in either of Trump’s terms. > > Trump’s handling of inflation is equally grim. The CNN poll, which surveyed over 1,200 Americans, found that just 27 percent view Trump’s handling of inflation favorably, down from 44 percent this time a year ago. Gee, you couldn’t buy eggs, but now you’re unhappy with $4/gal gas and high inflation? Who knew! (yes yes, all the usual provisos, a CNN poll, probably a strong self-selection, but work with me!) ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5166 "2026-04-01T19:10:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > don’t see anyone in the MAGA-Republican world who has the audacity to ignore the constitution, ignore Judges’ rulings, ignore world opinion and pick up where trump leaves off (soon, I hope). Vance? Cruz? Miller? No way. I disagree a little - Miller absolutely has the audacity and Vance might. But what those two don’t have is whatever you call the ability to inspire worship that Trump has, so I don’t see either of them being elected President. I’m not sure Miller could get elected to anything. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5167 "2026-04-01T19:21:25Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > From an international perspective, it’s going to be a very, VERY long time for the USA to come back from this. Sure Trump will be gone relatively soon. Your system that created him though? That’s not going anywhere. The massive numbers of voters that KNEW what he was and voted for him anyway? They are not going anywhere. Your corrupt Supreme Court? They are there for a long time yet. > > Alliances and trust with other countries are easily destroyed and hard to repair. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > No, America wasn’t perfect in 2016, but we had made great strides. Then Trump started holding his rallies and saying it was OK to hate people who were different from you. > > And it will take us decades to get back from that. To be clear, I acknowledge and agree with all of this. I’m not so naive as to think that once Trump is gone, however it happens, all will be well, or that the road to recovery will be simple and straightforward. The unfathomable damage that Trump has inflicted on virtually every aspect of American society may ultimately be unrecoverable, even if we were to elect only honest and competent politicians dedicated to restoring our democracy and international standing. But first things first. We have to put out the fire before we can begin rebuilding the house. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5168 "2026-04-01T19:26:56Z")
One thing I find marginally encouraging is how many Republicans are retiring before the end of this term. They may be spineless to the extent that they won’t cross Trump while in office, but by retiring comparatively late in this term, they are creating opportunities for Democrats to prevail in districts where an incumbent might have had the edge. It will be expensive and difficult for Republicans to mount successful campaigns at this late date. And whether it’s to avoid the indignity of losing to a Democrat in what should perhaps be considered a safe seat, or just a back-door way of creating those opportunities for Dems to win, it will help Dems do better in the midterms. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5169 "2026-04-01T19:27:15Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > And I will state again, the worst thing that Donald Trump has done to this country is make it OK to be an asshole. I’m more than willing to debate actual policy with conservatives, but Trump gets in front of his followers and makes fun of the handicapped and trans and Gold Star parents and keeps punching down, and if he can do that then I can, too. No, America wasn’t perfect in 2016, but we had made great strides. Then Trump started holding his rallies and saying it was OK to hate people who were different from you. So very this. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5170 "2026-04-01T19:35:27Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > But first things first. We have to put out the fire before we can begin rebuilding the house. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5171 "2026-04-01T19:43:43Z")
And to anyone who’s depressed and thinks there’s nothing they can do, guess what? That’s how Trump _wants_ you to feel. If you attend a rally, or join a political group (I recommend [Indivisible](https://indivisible.org)), or write some postcards to voters in swing states, not only will you be fighting the good fight, you’ll be connecting with like-minded people, and you’ll feel better and more hopeful. And you’ll have an answer when your grandkids ask, “What did _you_ do about Trump?” If you’ve ever wondered what you would have done during Hitler’s rise to power in 1930s Germany, **you’re doing it right now!** ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5172 "2026-04-01T19:57:50Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > How about the USSR? Stalin routinely purged anyone he thought was a threat to his power, so no one wanted to stand out while he was alive. But after he died, they did have a new leader, and the system continued for decades. True, “the system” continued, and it sucked, but it was never again as arbitrarily murderous as it had been under Stalin. Things did in fact improve considerably when he died. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5173 "2026-04-01T20:11:23Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > But first things first. We have to put out the fire before we can begin rebuilding the house. This ^ . Worrying about what JD will do will just have to be another step. Every journey starts with the first step. > [@commasense](#): > > And you’ll have an answer when your grandkids ask, “What did _you_ do about Trump?” > > If you’ve ever wondered what you would have done during Hitler’s rise to power in 1930s Germany, **you’re doing it right now!** Yup. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5174 "2026-04-01T21:15:33Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > And you’ll have an answer when your grandkids ask, “What did _you_ do about Trump?” My answer would be “That’s it, you’re written out of the will.”\* > [@commasense](#): > > And to anyone who’s depressed and thinks there’s nothing they can do, guess what? That’s how Trump _wants_ you to feel. I hear he’s really steamed about all those AI videos of Iran and Putin making a whiny little ass out of him. \*if I had grandchildren, that is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=256) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=258)