# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 266
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5335 "2026-05-02T23:01:06Z")
Closer to 3000%, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5336 "2026-05-03T04:50:13Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Sounds can’t miss! It’s just a way of paying bribes isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5337 "2026-05-03T15:20:13Z")
I have to admit I’m skeptical of a lot of the LAMF stories…because when someone realizes they’ve made a really big mistake, they typically don’t vocally admit it to their biggest detractors, at least not at first. But this one made me feel really good. > **[PART 2: I Lied My Way Into a MAGA Focus Group](https://open.substack.com/pub/patricemersault/p/i-lied-my-way-into-a-maga-focus-group-d69?r=ekl2j&utm_medium=ios)** > > The Conclusion: What I didn’t expect to hear. I’m starting with Part 2, because that’s where the good stuff is If you aren’t inclined to click, this guy lied and joined 11 other Trump voters for a focus group session. They were asked - inside this “safe space” - to give Trump a letter grade. The final tally was A-0, B-0, C-0, D-6, F-6. One person initially gave him a C but asked to change it. I don’t think any of their reasoning was surprising, it was what you’d expect normal people to say. But I’m hopeful that it might be evidence that the media efforts to normalize Trump aren’t working. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5338 "2026-05-03T15:54:19Z")
Thank-you for sharing. Cool to hear. Let’s hope there’s more groups like this that we’re not aware about. 😆 “Ah, an unforeseen development” 😆 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5339 "2026-05-03T21:29:54Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Thank-you for sharing. Cool to hear. Word. I just hope (and expect) that she keeps in mind Kurt Vonnegut’s warning: _We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be._ ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5340 "2026-05-05T13:21:32Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I have to admit I’m skeptical of a lot of the LAMF stories…because when someone realizes they’ve made a really big mistake, they typically don’t vocally admit it to their biggest detractors, at least not at first. That’s because you’re looking at it all wrong. Nine times out of ten, they don’t see themselves as having made a mistake. They see themselves as innocent victims, being persecuted like Jesus. They expect everyone to see it exactly the same way and not attach any moral blameworthiness onto them. Indeed, they expect sympathy an understanding. “Sure, I told all my kids to vote for Trump so he’d deport all those dirty Nicaraguans, coming here illegally and taking all our jobs, but I never expected that a good, honest Mexican like me could get deported just for entering the country illegally and working without authorization…” They are psychopaths and fools. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5341 "2026-05-05T14:04:45Z")
Yes^^. It’s a plea to Dear Leader to e.g. stop deporting Mexicans. It’s not a plea to e.g. stop deportations altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5342 "2026-05-05T15:16:10Z")
“If only Comrade Trump knew!” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5343 "2026-05-05T15:20:32Z")
_Precisely!_ ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5344 "2026-05-05T16:06:18Z")
I keep thinking that it must be related to “Just world theory”. This kind of people tend to believe in it, namely: that bad things only happen to people that somehow “deserve it”. So they voted for Trump in order to get even more bad people punished, them? no they are not bad people so no bad things are going to happen to them, why do you ask?. That’s why they are surprised when the bad things the voted for for other people happen to them. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5345 "2026-05-05T17:11:22Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > This kind of people tend to believe in it, namely: that bad things only happen to people that somehow “deserve it”. > So they voted for Trump in order to get even more bad people punished, them? Same as when these followers lose social benefit payments. They are sure, they just KNOW that THEY deserve them, and should keep getting them from the billions in savings that will happen after they’re taken from the cheats and welfare queens who don’t. They’re not getting that the whole program is being cut for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5346 "2026-05-05T17:59:07Z")
Remember how [Richard and Elizabeth Uihlein](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_and_Elizabeth_Uihlein), owners of the massive Uline industrial supply company, were in Trump’s top 5 donors ($59 million to Trump’s campaign) in 2024? Well, in the latest catalog, in a full-page diatribe, Liz is PLEADING for workers, even via immigration reform, so that they can find enough workers to fill their warehouses. Evidently they’re so short-staffed that they’re begging for new employees. And they’re not so happy about the low birthrate here and lack of immigrants to come work for them, even though they offer _air conditioning_ in their Florida warehouse! Even though she criticizes Trump’s policies, she manages to get a dig in at Biden just to keep everyone happy. > Canada has a good immigration policy, from this American’s viewpoint. They set annual immigration target - 380,000 for 2026 > In recent years, Canada’s population has gone from approximately 33 million to 39 million. While there are issues with their system, in my opinion, it functions 100% better than the U.S. We’ve gone from anything goes with Biden to the shutdown with Trump. [![](https://i.imgur.com/Qiu2W2B.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Qiu2W2B.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5347 "2026-05-05T18:03:06Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > > [@ULine catalog](#): > > > > We’ve gone from anything goes with Biden to the shutdown with Trump. Well, she’s half right. we are shut down under trump. Screw her and her fantasy-based thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5348 "2026-05-05T18:25:40Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Canada has a good immigration policy, from this American’s viewpoint. They set annual immigration target - 380,000 for 2026 Interesting that she fails to mention how much controversy there is in Canada over our immigration policies of the last decade or so, and that we’re reforming it quite a bit after our last election. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5349 "2026-05-05T18:56:21Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Well, in the latest catalog, in a full-page diatribe, Liz is PLEADING for workers, even via immigration reform, so that they can find enough workers to fill their warehouses. Screw her and her company. They are being investigating for allegedly bringing in workers from their facility in Mexico to staff their Wisconsin location, circumventing immigration law. > **[Investigation urged into immigration practices of company owned by Maga donors](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/25/wisconsin-official-uline-investigation-maga-donors)** > > Milwaukee city council member calls for inquiry into Uline’s previous ‘shuttle program’ to bring in Mexican workers ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5350 "2026-05-05T20:47:22Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > They are being investigating for allegedly bringing in workers from their facility in Mexico to staff their Wisconsin location, circumventing immigration law. Kind of reminds me of a certain someone who employs undocumented workers at his golf courses. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5351 "2026-05-05T20:57:29Z")
Coming to this country to work will get you separated from your family and abandoned in a different country that you’ve never been to. But on the other hand, if a Republican wants to give you a lift, so you can make the Republican richer, all is well. Fucking Republicans, eat shit! ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5352 "2026-05-05T22:15:47Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > This kind of people tend to believe in it, namely: that bad things only happen to people that somehow “deserve it”. My theory is a lot of them have had bad things happen to them and feel as though bad things should happen to other people too. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5353 "2026-05-05T22:23:56Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Fucking Republicans, eat shit! Ooh, I could put this on a protest sign. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5354 "2026-05-06T04:52:53Z")
From what I could see from focus group comments (the one above and others) the other thing is that they seem to be astonishingly poor judges of character. They seem to have bought into Trump’s TV image and his claims about his own competence wholesale, and seem genuinely flabbergasted by his now demonstrated incompetence. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=265) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=267)