# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 277
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5555 "2026-08-24T10:38:02Z")
Yeah, I don’t feel bad for the Trump fan boy. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5556 "2026-08-24T13:09:54Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Gift link Alas, not for me. ☹ But I appreciate the informative quotes, so that I know the story. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5557 "2026-08-24T13:41:22Z")
> [@robby](#): > > > [@New York Times](#): > > > > Mosquera’s sister de Ortíz told me she remembered Mosquera practically stumping for Trump. “He would sit on the patio and say, ‘Trump is going to change everything, you’ll see,’” she said. “He even told his daughter to vote for Trump.” > > Way to go, dumbass. Trump sure changed everything, all right. Thank you for sharing this. I had missed that part of the story when I first skimmed the article. I felt terrible. Now I don’t. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5558 "2026-08-24T13:44:20Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Alas, not for me. Some new NYTimes BS. They still want you to log in, even if you don’t have a subscription and are just reading a ‘free’ article ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5559 "2026-08-24T13:46:41Z")
Yeah, it’s annoying. I rather go back to the ten gift articles per month, rather than unlimited but the readers have to have a free account. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5560 "2026-08-24T13:58:10Z")
Yeah, that’s not “free” - they’ll sell your email to data brokers and anything else they can find out about you. Everyone seems to be doing this nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5561 "2026-08-24T14:05:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Yeah, that’s not “free” - they’ll sell your email to data brokers and anything else they can find out about you. That’s why I have a yahoo account to use when some site wants my email address. Duh. You don’t have to use your primary email account in these situations. Yeah, yeah, yeah… we _shouldn’t_ have to do this! Stuff should be free! Why should places whose product/output I want be allowed to use/view _make money_ off of me! Gripe, gripe, gripe. 🙄 Stuff isn’t free, sheeple. **Someone** is paying for it. Like we subscribers who happily share links in the interest of fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5562 "2026-08-24T14:10:22Z")
I don’t object to a company trying to make money. I do object when people aren’t fully informed prior to making a choice. This “free article but give your e-mail address” business is exactly that sort of bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5563 "2026-08-24T20:38:14Z")
(Nelson) **HA-HA!** (/Nelson) ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5564 "2026-08-24T21:30:51Z")
> [@robby](#): > > > [@New York Times](#): > > > > ‘Trump is going to change everything Well it looks like he was right about that, at least as far as his own situation was concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5565 "2026-08-27T03:49:19Z")
Farmers are angry at Trump for putting them in a big financial squeeze. > [@](#): > > Farmers who overwhelmingly backed him in 2024 say his trade war and Iran conflict have sent costs soaring, piled on uncertainty and pushed the agricultural sector into its worst financial downturn in decades. Counties in the rural “corn belt” went for Trump by an overwhelming margin in the last election (78%). But that’s changing. > [@](#): > > Fox News polling put his approval among rural voters at 70 percent when he began his second term in January 2025. By June, that figure had fallen to 51 percent, before sliding again to just 44 percent last month. > **[Key Voter Group Rages at Trump for Sparking Historic Crisis](https://www.thedailybeast.com/key-voter-group-rages-at-trump-for-sparking-historic-crisis/)** > > Farmers who overwhelmingly backed Trump are now warning they are in the worst financial crisis since the 1980s. Guess those voters will have to be reminded about how MAGA is protecting them from Democratic Communists, transgenders infiltrating girls’ sports, and similar threats that are _way_ more important than farm foreclosures and bankruptcies. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5566 "2026-08-27T04:02:02Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Counties in the rural “corn belt” went for Trump by an overwhelming margin in the last election (78%). But that’s changing. First past the post. That’s the “problem” (it is or isn’t depending on your POV) - much like it doesn’t much matter if Democrats rack up big vote margins in CA, it doesn’t matter if Republicans barely squeak by in Iowa. It’s why I don’t get particularly encouraged or worked up by that sort of reporting. It’s interesting and will be nice if it leads to something in a purple state/area. But winning by 1% is the same as winning by 15%. And if at the end of the day… > [@Jackmannii](#): > > Guess those voters will have to be reminded about how MAGA is protecting them from Democratic Communists, transgenders infiltrating girls’ sports … that works just enough, they’ll squeak through even if some disgusted farmers (which are a pretty small part of the electorate overall) abstain. Sorry - don’t mean to piss in your cornflakes 🙂. It’s just I’d prefer to defer on over-optimism in these trying times. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5567 "2026-08-27T04:09:35Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > It’s why I don’t get particularly encouraged or worked up by that sort of reporting. It’s interesting and will be nice if it leads to something in a purple state/area. But winning by 1% is the same as winning by 15%. And if at the end of the day… While a lot of states with big rural/farmer populations are pretty red, not all of them are. Two key “purple states” are among the top ag producers: Wisconsin is ranked #9 among the states for agricultural sales, and Michigan is ranked #19 ([source](https://data.ers.usda.gov/reports.aspx?ID=4048)). If farmers are pissed off enough that some might not vote GOP, it won’t make much of a difference in Iowa, but it might help tip the scales in Wisconsin and Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5568 "2026-08-27T11:41:37Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Farmers are angry at Trump for putting them in a big financial squeeze. [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQAXJdEhKyGMTgjUdl3HGtxzokjgR3Z8wamcQiVg78b6YEkdWWT85E84GZ&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQAXJdEhKyGMTgjUdl3HGtxzokjgR3Z8wamcQiVg78b6YEkdWWT85E84GZ&s=10) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5569 "2026-08-27T11:51:58Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > While a lot of states with big rural/farmer populations are pretty red, not all of them are Not only that, but our government is (for now) more than one man. Flip a few of those red distrcits or at least flip them to R but with a spine (if any are left), and that still makes a difference. People act like it’s just the one office that matters, and that’s part of the attitude that’s gotten us to this point. If more people actually cared about downballot races, some of those checks and balances might have actually been used by now. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5570 "2026-08-27T13:06:32Z")
Of course, some farmers retain their faith in Trump, no matter what it’s costing them. > [@](#): > > But at the State Farmers Market in Raleigh, North Carolina, Lucienda Lowe of Sugarloaf Orchards said her faith in Trump is solid. > > “There has to be a reason why they’re over there (fighting Iran),” she said. “They wouldn’t be over there doing that if there wasn’t something more going on than what we’re seeing.” > > She has not raised her prices on apples even as fuel and fertilizer costs soar. Her family has been farming since 1846 so she feels resilient to weather the next rough patch and tells others to do the same. > > “Suck it up, buttercup," she said. Inspiring. > **[Republicans face midterm verdict as Iran war drags on longer than Trump promised](https://abcnews.com/Politics/wireStory/republicans-face-midterm-verdict-iran-war-drags-months-135998199)** > > The Iran war has reshaped the rapidly approaching midterm elections ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5571 "2026-08-27T13:08:51Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > “There has to be a reason why they’re over there (fighting Iran),” she said. “They wouldn’t be over there doing that if there wasn’t something more going on than what we’re seeing.” I mean there just has to be, right? RIGHT? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5572 "2026-08-27T13:20:29Z")
Just as there were WMD in Iraq… ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5573 "2026-08-27T13:39:37Z")
On the one hand, there’s the ruination of a business your family has run for generations and financial hardship for years to come. On the other hand, there’s admitting, if only to yourself, that maybe you were taken for a fool by an incompetent grifter for at least a decade, which doesn’t include the other associated grifters who were doing similar things since at least Reagan, if not longer. That’s a tough call for anybody to make ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/5574 "2026-08-27T14:11:19Z")
Republicans love to take tax dollars and hand them to farmers. When worse comes to worse for farmers, Uncle Sam comes by with his big bag of money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=276) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=278)