# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/541 "2024-11-30T18:20:15Z")
With Matt Gaetz and Puff Daddy in charge? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/542 "2024-11-30T18:21:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > No, it means that the Supreme Court has ruled contrary to the Constitution. > > That statement is inherently self-contradictory. In _Dobbs_, SCOTUS decided that _Roe v. Wade_ had been decided improperly. Are we to infer that _Roe_ existed in some kind of _Eigenstadt_ for some fifty years, until the _Dobbs_ decision collapsed the wave function? Schroedinger’s cat should live so long, even if it never gets put in the box. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/543 "2024-11-30T18:31:58Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > In _Dobbs_, SCOTUS decided that _Roe v. Wade_ had been decided improperly. Are we to infer that _Roe_ existed in some kind of _Eigenstadt_ for some fifty years, until the _Dobbs_ decision collapsed the wave function? This is more to the point that SCOTUS believes that in the name of consistency stare decisis shall not be violated … except when they want to. We could have the exact same argument about _Plessy v Ferguson_ until _Brown v Board of Education_. Specifically to your point, in this thread posters are asking what to do when SCOTUS makes a “wrong” or “unconstitutional” decision. One solution is for SCOTUS itself to change the decision saying it was ruled on incorrectly. Suppose we go to war with China. Would you be happy if Chinese-American citizen were placed in concentration camps and SCOTUS said “Our hands are tied due to _Korematsu_.”? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/544 "2024-11-30T18:38:56Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I note that you’ve effectively ceded the point that the current Supreme Court could do pretty much whatever it wanted without any checks or balances to its rulings, no matter how extreme, and such rulings would become the law of the land immediately. That has been true since Marbury v Madison so calling out THIS Supreme Court is disingenuous. Dred Scott v Sanford Executive Order 6102 & Perry v United States and the Gold Clause Cases Kelo v New London Wickard v Filburn Citizens United v FEC The Slaughterhouse Cases Executive Order 9066 & Korematsu v United States Do I need to go on showing this has always been an issue? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/545 "2024-11-30T18:40:46Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Splitter! It’s the LEPFP – Leopards Eating Peoples’ Faces Party! I always thought it was the Face-eating leopard party. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/546 "2024-11-30T20:29:46Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Splitter! It’s the LEPFP – Leopards Eating Peoples’ Faces Party I thought we were the Leopards Eating Popular Faces Party. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/547 "2024-11-30T20:30:13Z")
I did accurately quote the originator of the concept in the OP: > [@Sherrerd](#): > > In 2015 the immortal observation > > > [@](#): > > > > **“I never thought leopards would eat MY face,” sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.** > > …was made by Adrian Bott (@cavalorn on then-Twitter—would this type of remark remain uncensored on X?) But when it came time to type a title I excised a word in the interests of making the title more readable. The “face-eating leopard party” is right out, I think, given that it implies that its voters are actually leopards. A quick search of “Trump voters surprised” led mainly to articles about voters who thought he’d lose. But there is this Reddit discussion of a paywalled _Atlantic_ article: > [@](#): > > … In the end, a majority of American voters chose Trump because they wanted what he was selling: a nonstop reality show of rage and resentment… Trump voters never cared about policies, and he rarely gave them any. (Choosing to be eaten by a shark rather than electrocuted might be a personal preference, but it’s not a policy.) > > Last night, a gaggle of millionaires and billionaires grinned and applauded for Trump. They were part of an alliance with the very people another Trump term would hurt—the young, minorities, and working families among them. … The discussion, from right after the election, won’t look alien to anyone here. After some back-and-forth over the topic of Trump voters “being sorry” when the economy tanks due to Trump’s nutty economic ideas, one poster says: > [@](#): > > … 2017-2018, when Democrats had _zero political power_, they [Trump fans] were blaming Democrats for all kinds of shit that Republicans were literally doing. > > The “Deep State” idea originated from this period; they needed a way to blame their fuckups on Democrats despite them holding all the levers of power, so _magically_ Democrats are _really_ still in control and thus can be blamed. > > Their group identity is stronger than reality itself. They will never abandon their grievance politics to vie for their own interests. Sounds pretty accurate so far. my interjection within brackets in that second quote [https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1gleb0m/trump\_voters\_got\_what\_they\_wanted\_those\_who/](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1gleb0m/trump_voters_got_what_they_wanted_those_who/) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/548 "2024-11-30T20:34:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I note that you’ve effectively ceded the point that the current Supreme Court could do pretty much whatever it wanted without any checks or balances to its rulings, no matter how extreme, and such rulings would become the law of the land immediately. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > In _Dobbs_, SCOTUS decided that _Roe v. Wade_ had been decided improperly. Are we to infer that _Roe_ existed in some kind of _Eigenstadt_ for some fifty years, until the _Dobbs_ decision collapsed the wave function? Marbury v. Madison isn’t exactly new, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/549 "2024-12-01T01:24:39Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > That has been true since Marbury v Madison so calling out THIS Supreme Court is disingenuous. Not if the point one is intending to prove is that we cannot rely on the current SCOTUS to be a check on the worst excesses of the Trump administration and other right-wing groups. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/550 "2024-12-01T02:29:05Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Not if the point one is intending to prove is that we cannot rely on the current SCOTUS to be a check on the worst excesses of the Trump administration and other right-wing groups. In my list there were three decisions that let FDR do whatever he wanted. And this new point is not evident in your post. Your point appeared to be OMG **THIS** SCOTUS is operating under rules no other Supreme Court ever has. Mah pearls. I’m getting the vapours. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/551 "2024-12-01T02:58:04Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Your point appeared to be > OMG **THIS** SCOTUS is operating under rules no other Supreme Court ever has. There’s at least one previous court that [operated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford) under Trumpian rules. It helped lead to the Civil War. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/552 "2024-12-01T04:27:29Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > There’s at least one previous court that [operated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford) under Trumpian rules. It helped lead to the Civil War. You saw I used that as one of my examples, right? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/553 "2024-12-01T04:38:47Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > You saw I used that as one of my examples, right? Actually no, that was upthread. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/554 "2024-12-01T06:55:20Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > I doubt straight white guys will face much, if any, hardships. The next decade or so will be amazing for them. The non-rich ones most certainly will be facing hardships just like nearly everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/555 "2024-12-01T07:14:09Z")
While saying to themselves, “At least I am not [other].” ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/556 "2024-12-01T07:49:06Z")
> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#): > > non-rich ones most certainly will be facing hardships just like nearly everyone else. Not exactly like nearly everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/557 "2024-12-01T08:52:42Z")
There’s plenty of straight white guys who fit the targeting parameters of the Right, even if many of them are too stupid to see it coming. Non-Christians, anyone who’s ever voted Democrat, anyone who isn’t “white” by the standards of the racists, anyone on any form of public assistance, anyone in a “liberal state”, anyone who refuses to repudiate someone who _is_ on the list of targets, etc. > First they came for the Communists > And I did not speak out > Because I was not a Communist > Then they came for the Socialists > And I did not speak out > Because I was not a Socialist > Then they came for the trade unionists > And I did not speak out > Because I was not a trade unionist > Then they came for the Jews > And I did not speak out > Because I was not a Jew > Then they came for me > And there was no one left > To speak out for me Fascists will keep going down their list of targets seeking an ever-more stringent standard of racial/religious/political purity, and sooner or later most people of whatever skin color will find themselves on it one way or another. [Including](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives) many of their supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/558 "2024-12-01T09:22:20Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > There’s plenty of straight white guys who fit the targeting parameters of the Right, even if many of them are too stupid to see it coming. Non-Christians, anyone who’s ever voted Democrat, anyone who isn’t “white” by the standards of the racists, anyone on any form of public assistance, anyone in a “liberal state”, anyone who refuses to repudiate someone who _is_ on the list of targets, etc. Add in any guy who is married to a non-white woman. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/559 "2024-12-01T09:23:45Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Add in any guy who is married to a non-white woman. Yeah, they’ll bring back miscegenation laws if they can. Gotta keep the Master Race pure after all. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/560 "2024-12-01T11:06:03Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > In my list there were three decisions that let FDR do whatever he wanted. And this new point is not evident in your post. Your point appeared to be > OMG **THIS** SCOTUS is operating under rules no other Supreme Court ever has. Mah pearls. I’m getting the vapours. That is not remotely my point. Unclutch those pearls. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=29)