# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/681 "2024-12-06T23:05:57Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > To the degree there are any underlying themes, one of the biggies is that there’s waaaay too many government employees. Eliminating the work many of them do, and outsourcing substantially all the rest to controllable private companies seems to be a goal. And the fact that those controllable private companies will charge about five times\* what the government agencies did to do the same work, is absolutely the best possible thing in this best of all possible worlds! . . . . \*\ of course the Dear Leader’s cut is crucial. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/682 "2024-12-07T12:55:42Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > Private prisons make money now. For tbe prison owners. That’s the only measure of merit the Fascists and tosdies are looking at > > Yes, but what is the source of that money? As I said, it’s the contracts they have with the government to hold the prisoners. > > If DOGE cuts the prison budget, that money disappears. You misunderstand something. The budget consists of two parts: the part spent on government personnel and government-owned infrastructure, which is all waste. And the part spent on corporate services. Which is all shiny and efficient and wonderful. Rest assured the propaganda will all be about cutting the first part. With no mention of the second part. As @Sherrerd points out just above this post. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/683 "2024-12-09T12:44:10Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I was thinking that, but here’s the thing: We already know that minimum wage isn’t enough to live on, pretty much anywhere in the US (and Canada, btw). And a prison building is likely more expensive to run than a cheap apartment building, if for no other reason you need to pay for guards. > > So who is going to pay _above minimum wage_ for prison labor? Why not just hire non-prisoners for minimum wage? Firstly the wage a person earns is not the same as the value that they are providing. Someone on minimum wage is delivering more than minimum wage value to their employer, likely a hell of a lot more. And in the case of prisoners, this is much more true, as you basically don’t need to follow any labor laws. Prisoners’ pay is mere cents; so all you need to do is pay for the room and board, which brings us to… Secondly there’s a difference between how much it costs to live in society independently, including landlords needing to make their own profit, transport, dependents etc versus being packed together in one building and being fed out of date discards from supermarkets. No-one would rent an “apartment” that was a bunk bed in a shared room next to a toilet. All together it’s somewhat a surprise that prisons in the US need federal funding at all. But of course they are profit-making ventures, so likely many _don’t_ really need it at existing levels, though of course they will lobby heavily. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/684 "2024-12-12T20:11:48Z")
You thought Trump was gonna give you cheap eggs? Fuck you. > **[Trump walks back grocery prices promise: 'Hard to bring things down'](https://www.newsweek.com/trump-walks-back-grocery-prices-promise-hard-bring-things-down-1999876)** > > The day before the election, Trump said, "A vote for Trump means your groceries will be cheaper." ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/685 "2024-12-12T20:38:36Z")
" Although Trump said it would be hard to bring down those prices, he told _Time_ that he believes they would fall as a result of his energy and supply chain policies" So we’re sticking with ‘don’t worry, the savings will trickle down’? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/686 "2024-12-12T20:41:54Z")
I’m struggling to understand why if we want to, say, bring down the price of eggs we can’t just put a tariff on chickens. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/687 "2024-12-12T20:46:57Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So we’re sticking with ‘don’t worry, the savings will trickle down’? Yep. And also eventually it will get to when it gets brought up many people’s _perception_ of price points vs. incomes will have adapted to the “new normal” and it will be like _“why do you keep bringing up things from the past?”_ and/or _“well, yeah, things have always been expensive but it’s not like when Biden, when it was twice that”_ [they’ll say with a straight face however high the price goes under Trump]. He probably also got told this would mean reducing the profits of the grocery corporations and the Big Ag producers. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/688 "2024-12-12T20:47:06Z")
As I understand it, that would mean that China would pay for the eggs. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/689 "2024-12-12T20:48:05Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’m struggling to understand why if we want to, say, bring down the price of eggs we can’t just put a tariff on chickens. And while we’re at it, put a tariff on Covid and Bird Flu. Keep all those nasty Chinese diseases out of our country. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/690 "2024-12-12T20:55:18Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’m struggling to understand why if we want to, say, bring down the price of eggs we can’t just put a tariff on chickens Or, better yet, stop exporting critical National Chicken Security Resources to those Commie Bastards! > In 2022, United States exported **$5.43B** in Poultry Meat. The main destinations of United States exports on Poultry Meat were China ($1.11B), Mexico ($1.02B), Canada ($417M), Cuba ($295M), and Chinese Taipei ($280M). > **[The Observatory of Economic Complexity](https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/poultry-meat/reporter/usa)** > > The world's leading data visualization tool for international trade data. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/691 "2024-12-12T21:10:47Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So we’re sticking with ‘don’t worry, the savings will trickle down’? And you know what trickles down on you when you’re underneath a chicken coop… ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/692 "2024-12-12T22:38:48Z")
It’s true though – no-one can bring prices _down_, the challenge will be whether Trump can keep inflation at its current low level. I wish the average Trump voter might learn something from this, but I doubt it. Even if Trump caused Zimbabwe-level hyperinflation it’s likely they could just be told it’s the fault of the deep state (and hey, the new Quintillion note has Trump’s face on it!) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/693 "2024-12-13T13:39:01Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > It’s true though – no-one can bring prices _down_, the challenge will be whether Trump can keep inflation at its current low level. Of course it’s true. But a certain percentage of voters punished Biden for not bringing prices down. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/694 "2024-12-13T13:44:44Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’m struggling to understand why if we want to, say, bring down the price of eggs we can’t just put a tariff on chickens. And what’s more, it’s the chickens that pay the tariff! ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/695 "2024-12-13T13:53:06Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > But a certain percentage of voters punished Biden for not bringing prices down. A _large_ percentage of voters. It was the #1 issue, and should have been a _positive_ for the Biden administration if it weren’t for a number of cultivated misconceptions. What I am speculating about is what proportion of those people will learn something (basic) about inflation when they see prices remain basically where they are (in the ideal case), or whether the disinformation will win again. Of course my money would be the latter. It’s the deep state’s fault, and Trump’s inflation number of 4% is really an improvement because the numbers when Biden left office were all fake news. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/696 "2024-12-13T14:34:12Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I wish the average Trump voter might learn something from this, but I doubt it. Even if Trump caused Zimbabwe-level hyperinflation it’s likely they could just be told it’s the fault of the deep state (and hey, the new Quintillion note has Trump’s face on it!) What do you mean, fault? The economy has never been better! Under the Democrats you were only making minimum wage. Now thanks to Trump’s very special genius, you’re making ten billion dollars a day! And next week, it’ll be five hundred billion a day! Trump has made everyone rich! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/697 "2024-12-13T15:43:33Z")
I pointed that article out to a Trumper friend on Facebook, along with a caption about how “he was going to fix all of this right away, right?” And I got the answer, “ More of a chance with him than the other.” You just can’t pierce that cloud of denial and hero-worship. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/698 "2024-12-13T15:58:28Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I pointed that article out to a Trumper friend on Facebook, along with a caption about how “he was going to fix all of this right away, right?” And I got the answer, “ More of a chance with him than the other.” You really can’t. On election night, the best defense of Trump my MAGA sister could give me was “He’s not as bad as Kamala.” She couldn’t find anything positive to say about Trump but she knew he wouldn’t be as bad as Harris. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/699 "2024-12-13T19:47:43Z")
That’s your “I vote for anyone with an (R) after their name” voter. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/700 "2024-12-15T12:35:57Z")
Gift link. # The Alienation of Jaime Cachua His friends and family members in Rome, Ga., voted to support mass deportation. Now he’s scrambling to stay in the country. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/15/us/trump-immigrant-deportations-rome-georgia.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.hk4.1K3p.5IeMdM8LXmgR&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/15/us/trump-immigrant-deportations-rome-georgia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hk4.1K3p.5IeMdM8LXmgR&smid=url-share) > [@CalMeacham](#): > > And what’s more, it’s the chickens that pay the tariff! Ha! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=36)