# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/721 "2024-12-16T17:38:00Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Well, then, the country is well and truly fucked. Absolutely ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/722 "2024-12-16T17:51:15Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If Republican voters looked around and admitted that Republican politicians have been screwing them over, they would also be admitting that they have been idiots all along. It helps too that Republicans have completely won the rhetorical war; both from buying big chunks of the media, but also the complicity of the (former) main new platforms. We’ve had numerous threads and posts that have lamented how Democrats look down upon blue-collar workers or Christians or farmers etc. These posts always seem to come woefully short when it comes to giving _any examples at all_ to substantiate what they’re saying. But as long as people continue to think this way, it doesn’t matter what happens to the country. _At least MAGA doesn’t look down on me_ is (ironically) the sentiment many will have. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/723 "2024-12-16T18:59:27Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > As I understand it, that would mean that China would pay for the eggs. What’s that got to do with the price of eggs in China? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/724 "2024-12-16T21:13:21Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > We’ve had numerous threads and posts that have lamented how Democrats look down upon blue-collar workers or Christians or farmers etc. These posts always seem to come woefully short when it comes to giving _any examples at all_ to substantiate what they’re saying. Projection. Projection. Projection. More projection than a 21-screen movie theater. They’ve been talking – hell, literally _singing_ (see: country & western music) – for decades that they are the Real Americans and urban, or college-educated, or white-collar, or non-church-going people aren’t real Americans, no matter how much income tax they pay, how often they stand for the National Anthem at ballgames, or how many in past wars fought & died in the military. People don’t run for office in metropolitan areas on putting down rural areas, or cutting farm subsidies, or “no money for rural roads!” But people do run for office in rural areas on seceding from the big, bad, greedy, wasteful city (when that big metro area usually has an outsized role in keeping the state economy moving and the state government budget out of the red). ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/725 "2024-12-16T21:43:21Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > the (former) main new platforms That was a confusing sequence of words… I meant _news_ platforms And well put, @John_Bredin, agree completely ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/726 "2024-12-17T03:38:50Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Well, then, the country is well and truly fucked. Which is why the fucker got elected. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/727 "2024-12-17T21:28:38Z")
Woman says Trump is a piece of shit and a horrible human being but she voted for him anyway because she thinks she’ll get a pay raise because of him. > **['Horrible human being': Woman compares Trump to feces — then says she voted...](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-horrible-human/)** > > A woman told CNN that she voted for President-elect Donald Trump despite believing him to be a "horrible human being" and comparing him to feces.During Tuesday's broadcast of CNN's Inside Politics, host Dana Bash highlighted three women who voted for... [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELyJ8iKVUAAwl-g.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELyJ8iKVUAAwl-g.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/728 "2024-12-18T00:09:25Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > See, this is why I think we should back off on the raw milk issue, and let them drink as much of that as they want. Agreed…although I feel a little bad about this because a really little kid has no say in what’s served with their meal. I’m related to people who are proponents of raw milk (especially for kids); I’m confident they were told the same stories I was, of their uncles nearly dying back in the '50s because they insisted on chugging raw milk. And yet here they are, serving that crap up to the children they claim to love. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/729 "2024-12-18T00:16:04Z")
Trader Joe’s carried raw milk when I moved to L.A. in the mid-'80s. I bought some, drank it, and had diarrhea for days. Haven’t (knowingly) had raw milk since. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/730 "2024-12-18T00:23:39Z")
I may have had raw milk when I was a kid. Reasons why this might be true: 1) My uncle had a farm and a strong belief that natural stuff was better Reasons why this might be false: 1) His farm did not have dairy cows (though surely there were dairy cows on nearby farms) 2) My aunt was a nurse, and knew what disease was ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/731 "2024-12-18T00:58:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Haven’t (knowingly) had raw milk since. To be fair, there’s nothing _inherently_ wrong with it. And it is possible to safely produce and consume in small quantities. But we have yet to discover a way to safely, sustainably, AND profitably produce it in sufficient quantities. Or even insufficient quantities, should it come to that. And that’s with thousands of years of practice involving people brilliant enough to figure out how to make stuff like Greenland shark and Fugu safe to consume and simultaneously idiotic enough to experiment on themselves figuring out how to do so in the first place. So, until and unless we figure that out, raise a glass to Louis Pasteur! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/732 "2024-12-18T01:05:35Z")
One family w one cow = almost always safe. One million families sharing 1 million cows blended together at random = almost always _ **un** _safe. What is so hard about this idea? Like the old adage: a drop of wine in a barrel of sewage results in … a barrel of sewage. Conversely a drop of sewage in a barrel of wine results in … a barrel of sewage. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/733 "2024-12-18T01:12:04Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > One million families sharing 1 million cows blended together at random = almost always _ **un** _safe. > > What is so hard about this idea? People have trouble with statistics and large numbers (especially when they don’t _want_ to believe the results). In this case, the fact that small numbers add up flies past many people. After all, the odds that any _one_ milking produces dangerous milk is quite low; that’s why people managed to drink milk historically without constantly getting sick from it in the first place. But as you say with _enough_ milk from _enough_ cows drank _enough_ times that small initial chance adds up to an effective certainty. Thus, pasteurization. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/734 "2024-12-18T01:21:59Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > 1. My aunt was a nurse, and knew what disease was My dad was a food science major; I had a picture book about Louis Pasteur. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/735 "2024-12-18T01:25:46Z")
My great uncle was a dairy farmer. I’ve had fresh from the cow raw milk. It. Is. Awesome. I do not think mass produced raw milk would be awesome at all, unless you’re talking about awesome amounts of diarrhea. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/736 "2024-12-18T01:27:28Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > But as you say with _enough_ milk from _enough_ cows drank _enough_ times that small initial chance adds up to an effective certainty. Thus, pasteurization. You udderly 😉 missed my point. One million families drinking their single cow’s milk will very occasionally make 1 family sick. One million families drinking the blended milk of 1 million cows will make everyone sick every week. It’s the _blending_ that ensures everyone gets tainted milk and gets it often. Not the raw numbers of people or cows. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/737 "2024-12-18T01:29:14Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I do not think mass produced raw milk would be awesome at all, unless you’re talking about awesome amounts of diarrhea. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/95/0a/98/950a985fc5cf753ef45be238264ccd53.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/95/0a/98/950a985fc5cf753ef45be238264ccd53.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/738 "2024-12-18T01:48:06Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Woman says Trump is a piece of shit and a horrible human being but she voted for him anyway because she thinks she’ll get a pay raise because of him. My sister kindly informed me that, while Donald Trump may well be a rapist (disclaimer so I have a defense if I get sued: under common definitions of the term rape, even if not necessarily the legal definition in every jurisdiction), she figures most men have done something like that (which, to me, sounds like a great reason to vote for the woman on the ballot, if she really believes that, right?), and anyway, he’ll make it so she can sell her house for more money. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/739 "2024-12-18T01:53:24Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > he’ll make it so she can sell her house for more money. And be able to buy the next one for less money! ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/740 "2024-12-18T01:56:38Z")
Alas, she had already closed on a new home, so I can’t fault her for _that_ level of cognitive dissonance. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=38)