# Surprises coming for voters for the Leopards-Eating-Faces Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166 "2024-11-12T19:54:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/761 "2024-12-23T23:54:12Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > How could we have defeated Hitler using an army full of face-havers?!?” If you don’t have a face, you can’t grow a stupid little mustache, can you? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/762 "2024-12-24T02:40:33Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > On the raw milk thing: one thing I seldom hear from the media, in its last weeks of semi-freedom, is the likelihood of mass food-borne illness in our near future. Milk lasts longer if pasteurised. Shelf life is extremely important to the food industry - the longer the better. “Raw milk” is a storm in a teacup. A fraction of a percent of the population are going to insist on paying premium prices for it the same way they insist on buying preservative free salt, and lettuce grown without the use of plutonium. Meanwhile, 99.9% of the industry will continue exactly as before, because even if consumers want raw milk, they want cheap milk that doesn’t go off quickly even more. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/763 "2024-12-24T02:52:27Z")
They also don’t want to have their mega corporation sued out of existence by giving Listeria to half the eastern Seaboard. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/764 "2024-12-24T03:17:53Z")
Yeah. Because you _know_ the people dumb enough to insist on raw milk will blame everyone but themselves when they get sick from it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/765 "2024-12-24T03:20:35Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > “Raw milk” is a storm in a teacup. That “storm in a teacup” could very well spiral into the next pandemic. > **[How a “Health” Fad Could Spell Disaster for Us All](https://slate.com/technology/2024/12/raw-milk-bird-flu-rfk-jr-antibodies-vaccines.html)** > > This is just one scenario. But it’s dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/766 "2024-12-24T04:49:42Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > They also don’t want to have their mega corporation sued out of existence by giving Listeria to half the eastern Seaboard. That didn’t seem to stop Listeria outbreaks at a few different ice cream outfits over the last few years. Not wanting to get sued may prevent them from using raw milk but it’ll only really get them to do the minimum to stay in business and then make promises to do better when the inevitable outbreaks occur. And with the FDA and CDC potentially looking at staffing cuts, good luck detecting outbreaks until it is much too late and/or regulating ‘minimum’ standards at anything resembling a reasonable level. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/767 "2024-12-24T10:08:28Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Not wanting to get sued may prevent them from using raw milk but it’ll only really get them to do the minimum to stay in business and then make promises to do better when the inevitable outbreaks occur. You really need to consider the shelf life point. Dairy companies have massive, profit-enhancing motivation to pasteurise. They do not want to deal with raw milk and will not do so to any significant extent. Raw milk fanatics’ needs will be met by a tiny specialist market. Everything else will carry on like before. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/768 "2024-12-24T10:13:22Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > You really need to consider the shelf life point. Dairy companies have massive, profit-enhancing motivation to pasteurise. They do not want to deal with raw milk and will not do so to any significant extent. I’m willing to bet that at least one company will be coming out with “raw-style” milk, which will be safely pasteurized, but will also supposedly have all of the “benefits” of raw milk. Followed by raw UHT milk, of course. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/769 "2024-12-24T10:19:37Z")
Sadly, for Elon, the name seems to be taken, [![](https://theplanteat.net/cdn/shop/files/5_c5c8eaa5-cc32-4b31-adb8-cbc435de3121_800x.jpg?v=1686188525) ](https://theplanteat.net/cdn/shop/files/5_c5c8eaa5-cc32-4b31-adb8-cbc435de3121_800x.jpg?v=1686188525) ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/770 "2024-12-24T11:56:25Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’m willing to bet that at least one company will be coming out with “raw-style” milk, which will be safely pasteurized, but will also supposedly have all of the “benefits” of raw milk. Followed by raw UHT milk, of course. _New Family-SafeTM Raw Milk - our raw dairy products are treated with a 150 year old French artisanal preservation technique. Our dairymen apply an all-natural momentary heat to enhance the natural goodness of the milk for the enjoyment and health of your family. No nasty chemicals!_ ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/771 "2024-12-24T12:25:38Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > all-natural momentary heat Nope, anything that hints at heat or thermal won’t slip by. You need to woo it up a bit. “Balanced energy gradient methods of our ancestors, that naturally deactivate harmful chemicals”, or the like. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/772 "2024-12-24T12:38:57Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “Balanced energy gradient methods of our ancestors, that naturally deactivate harmful chemicals”, or the like. Up next, from the misinformed morons making youtube videos category “all-natural balanced energy gradient for deactivating harmful chemicals in raw milk…at home”. Summary: leave your raw milk out in the sun, I’m sure it’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/773 "2024-12-25T13:24:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > They also don’t want to have their mega corporation sued out of existence by giving Listeria to half the eastern Seaboard. Very soon it may be illegal to sue corporations. After all, they’re the real citizens, not the mere humans. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/774 "2024-12-25T18:21:39Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Followed by raw UHT milk, of course. And gluten free? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/775 "2024-12-25T18:25:30Z")
Not by default. The gluten free raw milk is even more expensive than the ordinary raw milk. You can tell it’s better by the higher price tag. Why do I feel like we’re all brainstorming script ideas for a remake of _Idiocracy_? 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/776 "2024-12-25T19:47:25Z")
Because life imitates art (dammit!). ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/777 "2024-12-25T23:01:58Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > You can tell it’s better by the higher price tag. Perceived Value is a real thing. I see it in my own store all the time. Price something too far below the normal price (usually because we got a great deal on it) and it’ll just sit there. Raise the price a bit and it starts moving again. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/778 "2024-12-25T23:04:49Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Nope, anything that hints at heat or thermal won’t slip by. You need to woo it up a bit. > > “Balanced energy gradient methods of our ancestors, that naturally deactivate harmful chemicals”, or the like. Our method involves an increase of beneficial intrinsic energy… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/779 "2024-12-25T23:10:36Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Why do I feel like we’re all brainstorming script ideas for a remake of _Idiocracy_? Because that’s actually a good idea? The smart people finally grasp exactly how stupid the stupid people really are, and so start to actively manipulate them. Smart people set up their own enclaves where they can live normal lives, while they confine the stupid people to their own areas. They bombard the stupid people with memes and propaganda that trick them into taking care of themselves by making it look like they’re “free thinkers” who are “sticking it to the man”. Eventually we become Morlocks and Eloi. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166/780 "2024-12-26T01:15:32Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Eventually we become Morlocks and Eloi. They didn’t get to the part about who eats who, did they? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/surprises-coming-for-voters-for-the-leopards-eating-faces-party/1010166.md?page=40)